Desidério interviews Richard Swinburne ( Part 2 of 5 )

1º International Meeting of Contemporary Analytic Philosophy.
Desidério Murcho interviews Richard Swinburne.

Part 2 of 5.

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[Tredoslop]

Oh, and on Richard Swinburne's website, go to his PDF files sections; he does address this accusation in his 'Respongs to Richard Dawkins' Criticisms in The God Delusion.'

Dawkins was quite unfair to Swinburne. Swinburne to didn't justify the Holocaust, he tried to justify God's non-interference with the Holocaust.

[RebelRay]

"Swineburne once claimed the Jews had a wonderful possibility with the holocaust to proof themselves and develop his virtues of a second order like compassion and selfishness, "turn the other cheek" stuff. A person who claims such a thing is full of shit no matter what else he has to say."

Can you please provide the source? Where did he say that?

[GeetarAdam]

@lukeism2 If I simply can't believe that you "just can't believe", is that purely biological hardwiring, as well? It's a slippery slope. Doesn't suggesting that these things are merely the result of our brain's wiring sort of undermine the value of the logic/rationality that I presume you value so highly?

[lukeism2]

@venomousspiderwookie you've never heard of born believers?.. have you looked into michael shermers work?.. of why people believe strange things.. and our brains are hardwired to believe in gods, ghosts and superstitions etc.

i just cannot believe in a god.. or the christian doctrine, sorry to sound rude.. some people just cannot help it, they just believe.

you get it now?

[venomousspiderwookie]

@lukeism2

And how is your brain "hardwired" not to believe in God?

[lukeism2]

@AchillesShield or.. there isn't a god.. or a god is just not paying attention.. the idea of hell is interesting - i don't believe in god, i just can't.. it's not my fault.. if the christian flavour of god exists, i'll be tortured forever because of how my brain is hardwired, does this seem fair?

[AchillesShield]

@Tredoslop As a devout Christian I can understand such reasoning. I think the way Swinburne put it is careless. But this doesn't invalidate his point.

If it's worth anything, here's my opinion on why God allows evil in the world: everyone is sinful, which means everyone deserves destruction (i.e. Hell). The fact that we're still alive is because of God's mercy, which means that in this life we are getting less than our sins deserve. The "problem" of evil only exists when you ignore sin.

[MrGreenpixie]

I believe he was speaking of historical sciences such as Big Bang cosmology and evolutionary biology. We don't have a pet universe to falsify the theory, nor an ability to rerun the course of biological history, but we certainly have motivations for believing such things.

[jbweimar]

and of course predictive qualities not to forget.

[jbweimar]

There's obviously differences between scientific and historic methods. He fails to mention that scientific theories in general are required to be falsifiable.

[ChiefClickClack]

What is your deal dude?

Seriously.........

Why are you so hostile?.........If he wants to believe in unicorns why would you care?

[harpo10]

Swine burg can rot in fucking hell.