Celibidache - Brahms IV.1

Until I heard last Kleiber version on youtube, I deemed Celibidache's (this Celibidache) to be the best performance of this symphony. I tell you I still haven't made up my mind. What do you think?

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• brahms
• celibidache
• keiber

[herodot2]

(in English)

Kleiber and Celibidache are so fundamentally different conductors that comparison is almost pointless, imo. Where Celibidache is all about sound and phrasing, Kleiber is about dynamics and rythm.

Two totally different ways of music making, both ingenious and both entirely authentic. I don't want miss either of them.

[monicapotcovaru]

The best Brahms nr.4.

[oniemi1]

Ich war dann dabei in Proben und Konzert in Stuttgart. Maestro Celibicache war auch mein Professor von Dirigentenkursen in Trier und München. Ich habe so grosse Erlebnisse und Lehre bekommen.

[Apokolohypnotis]

Proud to be Romanian ... Celibidache is one of the most representative musical figures in Romania.

[warandcheese]

celibidache for me!

[mrlevina2]

The 'best' in a subjective sense is the one who opens a window on a work that you did not like or understand before. Celi did that for me in several works, like Beethoven's 9th, which I never liked before, but do after him.

Bohm opened my eyes on the 7th.

And Reiner's Chicago recording of the 5th showed me that I was looking at something astonishing.

[paulostroff99]

Superb! A work of genius. TY B for posting

[ahimsainternational]

@herodot2 What a lovely analysis. I prefer this one but I always love Kleiber also.

[Triosfrios]

His sound is darker, more velvetty. Kleiber's is crispier,more cristaline.

[corneliusfelix]

Where's the absence of dynamics or rhythm in this performance? Anyway, great as they are imho they are both outshone by Toscanini in terms of creating a fully thought-out whole.

[MuseDuCafe]

Certainly when it comes to those like Celibidache, Kleiber, or similar, Ferenc Fricsay, etc. There is room on that olympian pedastal for all of them, without quibbling about Gold, SIlver or Bronze. They're all Platinum, and I would not want to do with one to the exclusion of the other. I'm sure the composers whose works they perform would agree. Its like places in that regard: no place has everything.