Roswell Hoax & UFO

Feynman On Flying Saucers or UFO's

I had a conversation about flying saucers some years ago with laymen. You see, because I'm scientific they think I know all about flying saucers!

So, I said, I don't think there are flying saucers.

My antagonist said. Is it impossible that there are flying saucers?! Can you prove that it's impossible?

I said, No, I can't prove it's impossible. It's just very unlikely.

That they say, is very unscientific. If you can't prove it impossible, then how can you say it's unlikely?

But, that's the way it is, scientifically. It is scientific only to say what's more likely or less likely, and not to be proving all the time what's possible or impossible.

To define what I mean, I finally said to him. Listen. I mean that from my knowledge of the world that I see around me, I think that it is much more likely that the reports of flying saucers are the result of the known irrational characteristics of terrestrial intelligence rather than the unknown rational efforts of extraterrestrial intelligence.

Feynman

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[Tapecutter59]

"I think that it is much more likely that the reports of flying saucers are the result of the known irrational characteristics of terrestrial intelligence rather than the unknown rational efforts of extraterrestrial intelligence." - LMAO, I'm going to use that next time I get into a conversation with a ufologist.

[ockteby]

That is my favorite from Feynman.

Frank

[jkilts]

That's interesting. It's definately the most reasonable explanation I've heard about UFO's. Thanks for sharing this! I'll also try and see his show tomorrow night, I love the History Channel.

[ockteby]

Thank you, Tom

[thatbamma]

i love that shockwave show, or at least i did. in okinawa i don't have cable, only the wonderful AFN network, but it's a good show from what I remember. i will be looking forward to more stories on this subject. personally, frank, i don't believe extraterrestrials exist, but if there is solid proof i'd be open to seeing it. but the subject itself is usually an interesting topic. keep these coming

[ockteby]

The History Channel will probably post some of the segments on the net after it has aired. I have a link to them in the video description box.

Thanks again for your service

Frank

[roswellskeptic]

@itsabomberscope Friedman brings a lot on himself. I have a hard time with people who are unable to admit they are wrong. I don't know why the comments are shorter.

[itsabomberscope]

@roswellskeptic I can see your point. I think hes had to put up with a lot of abuse, so its made him that way. Why can i only post 184 characters in comments? lol

[roswellskeptic]

@myztic123 I have never seen one of these intensely glowing objects have you? I have never seen a credible photo or video of one, have you? I have seen and heard lots of people talking about them as if they are real but why they would believe is beyond me. I have been all over the world and never seen anything in the sky that I could not explain.

[roswellskeptic]

@itsabomberscope I agree with that. But if you listen to Friedman speak he claims that he is the preeminent UFOlogist, THE expert on Roswell, the first person to speak to Marcel and therefore an expert on the man, he calls anyone who disagrees with him foolish and points out that debunkers don't want to listen to the truth while he dismisses out of hand any evidence that contradicts him. Just my opinion of the man.

[itsabomberscope]

@roswellskeptic Not sure about that. I think EGO is a big problem on all sides of this issue.

[roswellskeptic]

@itsabomberscope Friedman did not tell us everything he knows about Roswell. In fact I think he really does not believe in it himself. He is just too egotistical to admit that he is wrong.

[nofooIn]

There are numerous cases, mose of them before the Air Force censored their own sightings in the mid '50s, that indicate strongly that UFOs are advanced craft that are intelligently controlled, and they were not US or Soviet in origin. If you want to know the truth, read the book by Edward Ruppelt who headed up Project Blue Book in the early '50s. He never says they are extraterrestrial in origin, but he doesn't have to. BTW, his book was OK'd by the Air Force.

[myztic123]

Well we could debate whether it's more likely that terrestrial organisations are able to build flying objects which glow intensely and can maneuver as exact as no conventional plane, but since we cannot know anyway it's okay to let them be unidentified.

[Tapecutter59]

@myztic123: I think extraterrestrial life is highly likely but that is not what Feynman is talking about. He is addressing the highly unlikely claim that UFO's are alien spaceships.

I myself have no trouble with the fact that there are flying objects that can't be identified. The fact they can't be identified should tell you something about the conclusions of ufologists.

[myztic123]

While Feynman is surely a genius it was just his personal opinion and based on facts existant decades ago.

Nowadays, when water on the moon is discovered, planets in our solar system could bear (simple) life and there's more and more evidence of life on planets may not be as special as one thought he would maybe think different. We just have to guess, only few people know if ufos are terrestrial or not, the rest just has to guess based on his/her beliefs and known facts.