rontenn likes saying Proby was a great mimic and could do any voice but he only mimicked on demos not on his records or in performances. Either he won't admit Proby copied other singers or he can't recognise the similarities. He admits he hasn't listened to works by many of the artistes Proby frequently copied but still thinks he's an expert on everything Proby did.
I don't know who Proby's manager was in 2003 or if he had one but Ben Weisman didn't die until 2007.
@rontenn You lectured me on the subject of English and gave me the incorrect meaning of the phrase "could never be bettered". Giving you the benefit of the doubt I posted the correct meaning of the phrase from Weisman's American point of view. So far the only points you've made on this video are you don't think Proby mimicked John Lennon but he was a great mimic, he demo'd unknown songs for unknown singers and his manager in 2003 must be somebody's dirty secret.
@brown601trail You like that word "dickhead" don't you.Please thank me for teaching you it! Are you on something? You say I quoted an American ? You are hallucinating pal! " Weisman wasn't English"......wow you are quick! Whoever said he was? Everyone knows he's a yank! I think you'd better take another look at the postings you & I have left because you have seen things that weren't even written. You are going round in circles & hopefully you will disappear very soon up your own ass!
@rontenn Why should I look anything up? It doesn't work that way, dickhead. The burden of proof is on the guy who makes the claim and that's you. You're a real hoot, running around posting your silly Proby comments like people will believe you. LOL.
Weisman wasn't English. You quoted an AMERICAN who was saying (if he in fact said it) no one was better than Proby was. NOT that Proby was better than everyone. Big difference. By the way YOU introduced the subject of songwriters.
@brown601trail "could never be bettered" means to everyone (except you) just what it says......Proby's was the best version. You must have been bottom of the class in English lessons! Bottom of the pile in life too! Now suddenly you're talking about Proby's songwriting.....I thought the topic was his demo singing for other songwriters? Changing the angle of attack are we?LOL You go on Yahoo or whatever & find out who was Proby's manager in 2003 when the Weisman quote was made.
@rontenn You didn't say DEMO SINGER in your comment about what writers wanted, dickhead. Your Weisman "quote" falls short of saying Proby's rendition was BETTER as you first said. So which one of Proby's umpteen former managers told you what Weisman said? If songwriters always aimed at a particular artist Proby's aim was lousy. Very few of his songs were recorded by anyone. Most songwriters write hoping they can just sell a song to anybody but you wouldn't know about that or much else actually.
@brown601trail. I have never known such a dickhead on YouTube like you. Songwriters knew which artiste they were aiming their songs at. The demo singers were not important but they had to sing the songs precisely as the writer ordered.Weisman arranged everything,the solo singer,backing group vocals & orchestra etc. Not long before he died Ben told PJ's manager that Proby's vocals could never be bettered but because he was an unknown there was no chance he could have been THE name on the record.
@rontenn What's wrong, can't you think of any black singers or Cash songs? I can't be bothered with your SILLY claims. So you think songwriters knew how they wanted their songs sung? Sung by WHO? Their demo singers maybe. You're a fool if you think successful songwriters tried to tell somebody like Bobby Vee how to sing a song. You're saying Ben Weisman spread the word he liked Proby's demo better than Vee's hit? Weisman was peddling songs and was no idiot. Who are you quoting? Proby? LOL
brown601trail
obnoxious arsehole enough said
horsewithnoname78 4 weeks ago
@brown601trail
rontenn likes saying Proby was a great mimic and could do any voice but he only mimicked on demos not on his records or in performances. Either he won't admit Proby copied other singers or he can't recognise the similarities. He admits he hasn't listened to works by many of the artistes Proby frequently copied but still thinks he's an expert on everything Proby did.
I don't know who Proby's manager was in 2003 or if he had one but Ben Weisman didn't die until 2007.
grizzlygalore 1 year ago
@brown601trail Talk to da hand cos the face don't wanna hear it anymore!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn You lectured me on the subject of English and gave me the incorrect meaning of the phrase "could never be bettered". Giving you the benefit of the doubt I posted the correct meaning of the phrase from Weisman's American point of view. So far the only points you've made on this video are you don't think Proby mimicked John Lennon but he was a great mimic, he demo'd unknown songs for unknown singers and his manager in 2003 must be somebody's dirty secret.
brown601trail 1 year ago
@brown601trail You like that word "dickhead" don't you.Please thank me for teaching you it! Are you on something? You say I quoted an American ? You are hallucinating pal! " Weisman wasn't English"......wow you are quick! Whoever said he was? Everyone knows he's a yank! I think you'd better take another look at the postings you & I have left because you have seen things that weren't even written. You are going round in circles & hopefully you will disappear very soon up your own ass!
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn Why should I look anything up? It doesn't work that way, dickhead. The burden of proof is on the guy who makes the claim and that's you. You're a real hoot, running around posting your silly Proby comments like people will believe you. LOL.
Weisman wasn't English. You quoted an AMERICAN who was saying (if he in fact said it) no one was better than Proby was. NOT that Proby was better than everyone. Big difference. By the way YOU introduced the subject of songwriters.
brown601trail 1 year ago
@brown601trail "could never be bettered" means to everyone (except you) just what it says......Proby's was the best version. You must have been bottom of the class in English lessons! Bottom of the pile in life too! Now suddenly you're talking about Proby's songwriting.....I thought the topic was his demo singing for other songwriters? Changing the angle of attack are we?LOL You go on Yahoo or whatever & find out who was Proby's manager in 2003 when the Weisman quote was made.
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn You didn't say DEMO SINGER in your comment about what writers wanted, dickhead. Your Weisman "quote" falls short of saying Proby's rendition was BETTER as you first said. So which one of Proby's umpteen former managers told you what Weisman said? If songwriters always aimed at a particular artist Proby's aim was lousy. Very few of his songs were recorded by anyone. Most songwriters write hoping they can just sell a song to anybody but you wouldn't know about that or much else actually.
brown601trail 1 year ago
@brown601trail. I have never known such a dickhead on YouTube like you. Songwriters knew which artiste they were aiming their songs at. The demo singers were not important but they had to sing the songs precisely as the writer ordered.Weisman arranged everything,the solo singer,backing group vocals & orchestra etc. Not long before he died Ben told PJ's manager that Proby's vocals could never be bettered but because he was an unknown there was no chance he could have been THE name on the record.
rontenn 1 year ago
@rontenn What's wrong, can't you think of any black singers or Cash songs? I can't be bothered with your SILLY claims. So you think songwriters knew how they wanted their songs sung? Sung by WHO? Their demo singers maybe. You're a fool if you think successful songwriters tried to tell somebody like Bobby Vee how to sing a song. You're saying Ben Weisman spread the word he liked Proby's demo better than Vee's hit? Weisman was peddling songs and was no idiot. Who are you quoting? Proby? LOL
brown601trail 1 year ago