The CineFiles: John Carpenter's The Thing Vs The Thing (2011)

A comparison between JOHN CARPENTER'S THE THING and the recent THING prequel. Taken very seriously within a format ripped off from Charlie Rose.

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• John Carpenter's The Thing
• Kurt Russell
• DW Moffat
• Richard Dysart
• Richard Masur
• sequel
• prequel
• Elizabeth Winstead
• Joel Edgarton
• practical effects
• sfx
• cgi
• sci fi
• horror
• classic
• The Thing From Another World
• Edwin Samuelson
• Michael Foltz
• Eric Cohen

[92Tribeca]

so you've ditched Jeff Gallashaw in the hopes of getting picked up? and if you don't get picked up by a self set deadline, you will end the show? first off, Edwin Samuelson is far too awkward. he doesn't make eye contact, in fact, avoids it, stumbles over his words, whines and interrupts. and often. i enjoy the show, but remove Eric and/or Michael and you've got something as useful as a stripper with clothes on. on a nice note, the new set up is great :D

[cinefiles]

@92Tribeca Perhaps, we'll end it earlier as you don't seem to like anything about me. --Edwin

[92Tribeca]

@cinefiles when you bring your A game you are as enjoyable and informative with your opinions as your co hosts, these recent episodes are great examples. but it is not often enough and theres still room for improvement. i hope this keeps up and wish The CineFiles many happy returns. besides this is all one opinion of many, i do love the show Edwin!

[cinefiles]

@92Tribeca I do my best, but I admit there's always room for improvement. I do appreciate you giving some credit. I do hope you understand why I was upset by your initial comments as you made it seem like I brought nothing to the show. BTW, are you affiliated with the 92Y in Tribeca?

[Deavi783]

6:02 ... did I hear a fart?

[cinefiles]

@Deavi783 That was the chair scrapping the floor. If you want to hear a real fart, check out William Shatner ripping one in the film Mindmeld.

[TheThingPrequel]

There is so much info that you guys talk about that sadly never happened the guy on teh right talks about the pods at 7:15 that is spot on how it was going to look before Universal put their hand sin the cookiejar. The director MAtthijs did a fantastic job with the little he had to work with he is def a big fan and treated the material like a pro. Sadly Universal fucked it up they wanted a movire "scary" monster and went CGI which is why it was re-shot. So sad really i love the movie but itcould

[AduneStormwind]

And in the Prequel, The Thing's behavior isn't completely far fetched. Don't forget, it's the creature's first encounter with humans and doesn't quite know what to expect. So it tries the aggressive approach first. By the end of the film and the beginning of JC's film. The Thing has had experience with Humans, it now knows how resourceful and dangerous humans are, so it takes a more subtle approach at Outpost 31.

[AduneStormwind]

I don't understand people people keep calling this a remake, It is not, It's a prequel and is very clearly a prequel. It's inferior to JC's film to be sure, that doesn't make it bad. And yes there's alot of similiarities, It's the same creature and they are in the same environment as in JC's film, what do you expect? I'm actually surprised how much different the film was, The tooth fillings test for a start.It's not great but it's a worthy companion piece to JC's The Thing

[lightlittlebrownboy]

@cinefiles

You sound like Professor Frink from the Simpsons. That's reason enough to watch you guys and listen to everybody's different perspectives.

[LtActionCam]

whiny bitchz

[TheThingPrequel]

I´ve been sitting here listening through everyting youve talked about and to be frank I can only come through with one conclution. Why are you comparing the 2 movies? You are approaching the prequel from a completely wrong angle. This movie never set out to be better or shine more than the 82 classic. The JC movie is damn near perfect but it to has flaws. It set out to wokr as a COMPANION-PIECE so you can see the 2 movies back-to-back and feel like you are watching one long movie. And that works

[CarrionBlack]

Great video. Very cathartic to hear my grievances poured out like that. I'm glad you went on as long as you did. What's frustrating about this remake is that it's not total crap, so we don't get the satisfaction of completely trashing it. It's closer to mediocre than crap, and it's more frustrating to dislike a film that actually possessed a few nuggets of potential.

Blair's critique of this remake: "THAT Thing wanted to be UUUUUUS!"

[CarrionBlack]

With all the interviews & commentaries I've absorbed over the years pertaining to Carpenter's Thing, I never got the sense that the poor box office performance of The Thing "ruined" John Carpenter. He made it up to Universal w/ Starman, which was tonally lighter & made money. Then Christine was a hit. I'd venture to say that Big Trouble put him on his slippery slope. And Memoirs of an Invisible Man wasn't the recovery that Starman was.

But screw box office, I love the whole Apocalypse Trilogy!

[Bloodsport1]

Edwin, great show man. But my man Ed, this comparable is clearly describe old school filmmaking and new filmmaking. The old movies, The Thing, TCM 1974, Predator 1987, they're all memorable, characters we like, feel for. Today movies, are forgetable. The other day Torque came on cable, I totally forgot about this movie, it made me realized 90% of movies from the mid 90's till now are forgetable. You guys MUST do a SHOW on this subject PLEASE!!!!!