Libertarians and Randroids, part 6
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"property is the initiation of force"
that little piece of logic just removed a stefbot sized brain tumor i once had
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I think slavery has been almost a constant throughout human history. The exceptions occur where the state has a monopoly of coercion are sparing in its use. What makes them spare the rod and what their boundaries are is the big question. Thank you raising these questions. Very fair minded I think.
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@DavidJohnWellman frankly, I'm glad you didn't bother with him in the end. He can't even tell the difference between debt and deficit, and doesn't like to be corrected on things he's clearly wrong about.
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Looks like someone is going to try libertarian utopia, google an article:
"A billionaire's Waterworld takes libertarianism to new depths"
It is an offshore platform on international water where they will have no welfare, little gun control, no minimum wage and looser building codes. I will give it few months before the whole thing collapses on its own stupidity.
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@PostITnoteGUY There is a reason none of the ancient stateless societies or city states survived. They all fought among one another and built empires. There will always be someone some where in the world who will seek to conquer and build new empires. The state provides more security than could a stateless society or a small city state. The utopian dreams of stateless societies always living in peace and harmony all over the globe has never existed and it never will.
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@shanedk Have you posted on my blog? I still have all of the pre-Disqus comments stored, and will repost them if asked, but I haven't seen you post there anywhere.
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@shanedk Like I said, if you'd like, I can cut and paste the comments that have been posted thus far into the new system.
I would ask libertarians the following.
Are they in favour of a person bying land?
Should there be a limit of how much land someone can buy?
When a libertarian society is created (from this current one), do I still own the land i legaly owned in the "previous" society?
If they answered yes to all of this, then states should be legal. Its a bunch of people who at one point took a part of the land and made it theirs. Just because they are born here, doesnt mean its still the property of us.
gulbirk 3 months ago 3
@Saukko31 No it wont collapse, because its not what you think it is. Its not some home for normal people. Bying prperty there is so expensive only rich people can afford it. And thats what its created for. Its also known as a tax paradise because it wont have taxes. So if you legaly move your adress to that place, you are not part of USA any longer, and dont pay taxes to USA. It wont collapse because its constructed by the rich for the rich.
gulbirk 3 months ago