Yeah, if you remove all the bolted on sheetmetal in front at your 240-260, you'll see that the frame rails doesn't go to the sides of the car at all, they actually are just marginally wider than the transmission tunnel. So in offset crashes, there won't be much that absorbs the energy. This problem are not unique for Volvos, it applies to most old cars. The first car designed to survive offset crashes was the W126 MB S-class, though many other brands didn't care until euro-NCAP started testing.
The 7/900-series (Of course it also applies to PV444/544, Amazon, 1/200-series and P1800/1800/1800ES) are very narrow between the frame rails. Also, there's nothing that takes the impact until the sills, when it's too late. At the time only Mercedes cared about offset crashes, so only their cars could take it, other cars, like Volvo, may have been good in full frontal crashes but not if less than the half front end impacted the obstacle. Still, I'll rater die in my 164 than drive a Renault.
It wasn't a proper head on crash though, was it? I would like to see what would have happened if the Volvo and the Renault met actually nose-to-nose in a collision.
OK, smart Modus body, but how about DECELERATION ?
The M has a shorter deformable front (say 0,7m against 2m). However, both cars decelerate about equally, thanks to the V long and soft front ! From cinetics we get: ~13G.
But in the other following scenarios, we get (40mph) :
V/V crash (or V into a wall..): 16G
M/M crash (...): 47G !...
If I ever «walked out» the Modus, my kids at the rear
next time crash a 2008 v70 into Renault Modus and see what happens
Aqwert76 1 year ago
Yeah, if you remove all the bolted on sheetmetal in front at your 240-260, you'll see that the frame rails doesn't go to the sides of the car at all, they actually are just marginally wider than the transmission tunnel. So in offset crashes, there won't be much that absorbs the energy. This problem are not unique for Volvos, it applies to most old cars. The first car designed to survive offset crashes was the W126 MB S-class, though many other brands didn't care until euro-NCAP started testing.
CptTuttle 3 years ago
Is that the same for the 2 series?
vinnyd91 3 years ago
The 7/900-series (Of course it also applies to PV444/544, Amazon, 1/200-series and P1800/1800/1800ES) are very narrow between the frame rails. Also, there's nothing that takes the impact until the sills, when it's too late. At the time only Mercedes cared about offset crashes, so only their cars could take it, other cars, like Volvo, may have been good in full frontal crashes but not if less than the half front end impacted the obstacle. Still, I'll rater die in my 164 than drive a Renault.
CptTuttle 3 years ago
It wasn't a proper head on crash though, was it? I would like to see what would have happened if the Volvo and the Renault met actually nose-to-nose in a collision.
vinnyd91 3 years ago
how about next time you team up two cars from the same era.
ksa8907 3 years ago
OK, smart Modus body, but how about DECELERATION ?
The M has a shorter deformable front (say 0,7m against 2m). However, both cars decelerate about equally, thanks to the V long and soft front ! From cinetics we get: ~13G.
But in the other following scenarios, we get (40mph) :
V/V crash (or V into a wall..): 16G
M/M crash (...): 47G !...
If I ever «walked out» the Modus, my kids at the rear
would never see me, since THEY WOULD BE DEAD !
Clever or not, short-nose cars are unsafe.
organopleno2000 3 years ago
Simply Awesome
aviatorboy 4 years ago