The Tale of Jephthah

What really happened in the story of Jephthah? Take a fresh look at this alleged horror story. Sure to give fundy atheists apoplexy.

http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jepthah.html offers more details. Don't try a response unless you read and respond to ALL of it.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Jephthah
• Bible
• apologetics
• human sacrifice

[SorokChyetirye]

Ah... Mr. Holding? I think you are reading something into Judges 11:37 that isn't there. At 8:28 you claim Jephte's daughter "expresses concern... about (here's the important word) always being a virgin". Nowhere does it indicate that his daughter thought to take a vow of virginity (that is perpetual virginity). Further, according to the footnotes of my NAB, 11:30 clearly expresses intent of blood sacrifice. Further, she might have mourned because she would die childless, a tragedy back then.

[tektontv]

@SorokChyetirye I can't see how she'd be concerned about virginity unless that was the issue as opposed to being killed. That was my point. Also, she doesn't take the vow; virginity is imposed on her because J did.

Re 11:30: So all I'd say is the NAB is wrong because the word "vow" is the same as that of Lev. 27. Bible footnotes don't impress me as thorough scholarship when compared to commentaries and journal articles. :)

[tektontv]

@clm12704 Uh huh. Good move anyway -- my rules say limit comments to the vid topic...so unless you have something to say about Jephthah, that'll be all.

[clm12704]

@tektontv Yep....

[tektontv]

@clm12704 Sorry, lame excuse. 1) The critic will just say that God is attacking people who disagree with Him -- which is what they DO say! 2) I'm destroying vicious wolves who drag people out of faith...eg, lead people astray! Last bit: Thanks heaps, but I've been at this for many years..."viewed by others" is still just an excuse...and it doesn't occur to you that your use of it is the same as saying, "You're ignorant, foolish, and/or immoral." :D Log in your eye...attend to it.

[clm12704]

@tektontv Malachi 2:3 is the Lord rebuking the false priests who were profaning His name by leading people astray. Little bit of a different deal than you attacking people who disagree with you.

That last bit was meant to be an admonishment for you to consider the tone you take with people who disagree with you and how it is viewed by others. I didn't call you any hateful names or say you were stupid. I'm just asking you to consider how your comments come across.

[tektontv]

@clm12704 Um, well, if that's true, what are you going to do when you hand someone a Bible and they read stuff like Malachi 2:3? You gonna edit that sort of thing out? Sorry, no -- targeted insults are 100% Biblical, and any idea of "discredit" is just an excuse used by those who resist truth. And BTW, that last bit could be taken as condescendingly insulting. Know what I mean? ;)

[Dante666]

@TheHogTieChamp What. Nobody argued about the term being "metaphorical". Translation issues, stupid.

[clm12704]

@tektontv Dude... I love the vids, but you gotta chill on the insults. Any impact these videos may have is going to be instantly discredited by some of this hateful stuff.

As Greg Koukl says, an effective ambassador for Christ needs to be skilled in 3 key areas: Knowledge, wisdom, and character. Know what I mean?

[tektontv]

@TheHogTieChamp Dumb as a box of rocks, I see. Those are ALL things answered in the vid. You're not showing anything I argued is wrong, you're just vomiting back the ignorant, primitive, literalist reading the vid refutes and which morons like you slather over like a rabid chihuahua.

The argument is simple, all right -- and simple is as simple does, Forrest! :D