Shiekh Ahmad Al-Ajmi got attacked!

Shiekh Ahmed Al-Ajmi recieved a call from a guy attacking him saying he is doing bida'a(innovation in religion) and he is from the group of bida'a and Anasheed is Bida'a, and that he isn't a follower of the Salaf(The past good followers from the days of prophet till 300 years after).
Shiekh Ahmed al Ajmi replied that he is a follower of Salaf and Anasheed isnt bida'a, Its hallal and have some rules.

Shiekh Ahmed gave that guy a chance to call him back, thats because at the first time he called, attacked and then closed fastly. And told him that he is ready to debate him about the issue... but just.... he didnt reply

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[bking1212]

a shia called the sheik it upsets me seeing him upset like this inshallah he wont be bothered by people like that anymore haram on the kind of people who upset one another

[altforfit]

@mhftwyo Listen, when i tell someone, when he says that Muta is okay and the Quran says so, and that Ibrahim (aleyhi salam) was a "shia", if he call Umar and Abu Bakr radiAllahu anhum kuffar, then im pretty sure he is a kafr when after i try to show him the truth he tells me im wrong, but Allahu Alem. I wil inshaAllah never call someone that agian unless they commit kufr openly and even then i want to hesitate as it is not a small thing to say. Thanks for you advice.

[mhftwyo]

@altforfit Akhi please don't make takfir. ibn Umar (RA) said:

The Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said,

"When a person calls his brother (in Islam) a disbeliever, one of them will certainly deserve the title, If the addressee is so as he has asserted, the disbelief of the man is confirmed, but if it is untrue, then it will revert to him."

[Al-Bukhari and Muslim] This means that if the person you call a kafir is not or does not have the traits of a kafir then you will be held as kafir.

[mhftwyo]

@TheIrisOfMyEyes These hadiths are not in our books rather we have the contrary.

ibn Jarir recorded that Harun bin Antarah said that his father said,

"When the Ayah, الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ (This day, I have perfected your religion for you) was revealed, during the great day of Hajj (the Day of Arafah)"

there is also an authentic Hadith in sahih bukhari also affirming that this ayah was revealed in arafat. Im only proving that THESE are the hadiths in our books not as you claimed.

[mhftwyo]

@TheIrisOfMyEyes Muqaddimat Tafseer al-Burhan,Miraat al-Anwar wa Mishkaat al-Asrar by Grand Ayatullah abu al-Hassan al-’Amili,printed in al-A’alami Beirut Lebanon, second introduction pages 83-84.

he clearly stated that the majority of the late Muhaqiqee al-Muhadditheen believed this matter and he was stating them by name such as: al-Qummi, al-Kulayni, al-’Ayyashi, al-Nu’umani, Furat bin Ibrahim, al-Tabrasi, al-Majlisi.

[mhftwyo]

@TheIrisOfMyEyes Majlisi said ” This hadith(17000 verses in Quran)is authentic and it cannot be hidden that this traditon and many more authentic traditons are explicit in that the Quran is missing and has changed. For me, (I believe) that the traditions have reached tawatur(are numerous)with regards to the meaning, and ignoring all of it would mean ignoring all traditions accordingly,"Mirat Al-Uqool Vol 12 p. 525.Al-Majlisi

[reachingforthetop]

there is no such thing as halal "islamic nasheed"...its just nasheed...and as the shaykh(may Allah preserve him) said....do the other important things first...Memorising the Quraan and learning the Ahadeeths(sunnahs) of the Prophet(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) first...then you can move there and even that has strict guidelines.....this nasheed business is probably one of the obstacles which prevent youth from aqcuiring knowledge(not saying everyone)..and Allah knows best...Wassalam.

[altforfit]

@TheIrisOfMyEyes There is not talk of Muta in the verse you mentioned just so you know.

 Salam.

[altforfit]

@TheIrisOfMyEyes I did not fail in anything, anything but keeping my temper at times when i should have not talked with bad words. We all need guidance, but in regards to Aqida you are truly the one who needs guidance. Salam

[TheIrisOfMyEyes]

@altforfit Again, you failed to do as I asked. I will no longer be replying. May Allah (swt) guide you in these matters. Salam.