Kimi Räikkönen team radio Malesia 2009
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@atomicR4GER In Germany Massa mathematically had the chances to fight for the championship...sure he was behind in points, but when Ferrari gave that "order" it was clear that Massa was nothing but #2-driver, Santander's money is what defines that Falonso is the number-1 driver in the team, no matter who drives the other car....
I seriously cant have any respect for such driver like Santander Eyebrow who can take joy from such victories as Germany 2010 and Singapore 2008
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@Balnazzardi Red Bull didnt use team orders last year because BOTH of their drivers were in contention for the championship, Felipe Massa hadn't even won a race, let alone be in contention. In any case you seem to have blind hatred of Alonso get in the way of facts and instead fill your mind with conspiracies and utter crap.
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Ok guys whats with all the hate on Fernando? Fernando might not be everyones cup of tea but hes a fantastic driver! So is Kimi! i'd love to see Kimi back in F1 next year. Maybe at Williams or somewhere else but it would be awesome if he was back at ferrari. Alonso and Raikkonen would be unstoppable with a good car!?
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@atomicR4GER Well if Alonso had win the championship by team order, it would have been total fiasco...
Did RedBull use teamorder in Brasil last year? NO they didnt! After Korea Mark Webber seemed to be in better situation, but instead of using team-order and letting Webber win, they didnt and I remember everyone saying how RedBull was offering the championship to Falonso...but if they had used team-order, Vettel wouldnt be champ now...that made it all the more sweeter when Falonso lost.
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@Balnazzardi Singapore 08, im not sure whether he knew or not.
About Germany '10 if he had of finished 2nd and then instead of being held up in the final race at abu dabi and lost the championship by anything under 7 points then ferrari and alonso would be heavily critised for not letting massa past, massa, regardless of team orders was NEVER in the hunt to win the championship and while people dont like it, letting alonso into the lead was the right call.
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@atomicR4GER It's not just about 2007, it was clear already in Renault that Alonso was the #1 driver (espeically since Briatore was also Alonso's manager), and we all remember what happened in Singapore 2008 (no matter what some people say, Alonso MUST HAVE KNOWN about his team's plan) and Germany 2010 (this is ridicilous, tell felipe to let me pass)....
With such things, I just cant have any respect for Alonso, although Im not saying that he is bad driver
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@Balnazzardi A lot of people also think that about Alonso but IMO with Kimi's personality I don't think he and Alonso would of had many problems with each other.
I also think Alonso is unfairly bashed because of the trouble's he and hamilton had in 2007 with regards to "team supremacy"
And to make it clear i'm not an Alonso fan either
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@atomicR4GER Well there is some point also in that, I admit...and another thing is that Alonso (as we all know from) cant stand it, if his team-mate gets equel treatment...Alonso has always wanted #1 driver status inside the team, and so Massa was perfect #2-driver for Ferrari, Kimi would have never submitted to be #2-driver...
So I think it was combination of Santader's money+Massa+Kimi's own interest to move to WRC...and according to Montezemolo also Kimi's lack of communication.
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@Balnazzardi I'm of the opinion that it was Massa's injury from hungary in 09 the lead to kimi not staying at ferrari, as ferrari would've looked pretty sleezy had the sacked Massa after it and decided to sympathetically keep him.
Sounds far fetched but thats what i think
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Too many people are still thinking that Raikkonen got fired from Ferrari because of his attitude or driving....ofcourse from Ferrari they'll never admit that it was the sponsor money that Santander brought with them, but you dont have to be genious to do the math...Spanish bank + Spanish driver....
In short, without Santander Kimi would have driven atleast 1 more year in 2010 in F1 and Ferrari, and maybe, just maybe taken his second championship....but now we will never know....
@SilverHayze , Kimi useless in Ferrari? are you retarded or jsut a cry baby alonso fan boy?
At least he managed to win the championship in the first year with Ferrari...with 2 solid pilots ahead of him... Alonso couldnt even overtake Petrov and he even blamed him.. ofc.... too used to see cars letting him pass... rofl.....
Shisediego 1 year ago 18
"Copy that Kimi. Don't worry, we've got ice cream and Coke in the garage fridge."
itsme111478 1 year ago 8