112 | Do Peaceful Protests Work? | Podcast376

Myles Dyer looks at the recent occurrences in New York City with Occupy Wall Street, and discusses the global reaction including the violence in the Italian capital Rome. Is it possible for the protesters to remain peaceful if they want to succeed?

Police Brutality Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxZ8_JdKm0Q
Police Brutality Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcW5qf99vcA

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[WayhoRachel]

I really hope that peaceful protests work. I don't want this to have to end in bloodshed. I am proud to say that I was part of Occupy Together. I am also proud to say that the police in our area were very supportive of us.

[embury]

I would like to believe that change can come about without violence breaking out, but in reality I'm not too sure that can happen.

[MisterAlexGabriel]

@WayhoRachel I don't think it's necessarily a forced choice between peace and 'bloodshed'. You can be no-peaceful in ways which don't involve attacking people (property destruction for instance).

[EquanimityJohn]

In my opinion, it is key to find a balance, and use force as necessary. Destruction of major corporate, capitalist, and governmental establishments will help expedite the message of peace in the long run. It is entirely ironic the philosophy of human harmony and liberty (Libertarian Socialism) is perceived as the most violent by those who currently run our false-democratic capitalist mainstream media. Global peace can be achieved through the development of a properly thought out revolution.

[EquanimityJohn]

Why I feel violence is also necessary: To truly ascend in to a 100% egalitarian society with no hierarchy, there will be dissenters, those former 1% - 20%ers or other overly indoctrinated rightists. In the end there will be bloodshed. The people must stand up to oppression by police and elitists. Our voice must be heard, and our march felt. For example, even today (Oct. 19) during the first day of the Greek strike, there was a group of Fascists also demonstrating who fought with Anarchists.

[EquanimityJohn]

I feel both are necessary. Peaceful protests, especially this new wave of occupation, demonstrates the power of 'true' or 'pure' democracy, as opposed to our representative democracies that govern the majority of the world. These types of protest do this through showing the power of the people's voice when unified. Occupations I find may be even more necessary, as they demonstrate true communism, through the development of community, the general assembly, and the use of the people's 'mic'.

[metalbagger2012]

FTP!!!!

[whiskersneighbour1]

While violence is often a catalyst for change, I think the Occupy movement is growing so rapidly already on it's own. I think all governments are befuddled and trying to figure out how to address this revolutionary force. Some won't figure it out and will resort to violence. Some political entities will try to co-opt it, and that might be cause for violence as every positive populist movement in the past has been co-opted by the major political entities and has died of bullshit poisoning.

[liagog]

we need to be nonviolent for as long as possible.... i AM hopeful that the violence can be minimalized by we 99% remaining calm and that there are lots and lots of calm people in the streets..... bring guitars... every revolution need music

[sheppardguitars]

During the looting in London earlier this year, the police took a back seat and took a long time to get involved to stop the violence, now when people are protesting peacefully over a legitimate cause the police kettle them from the word go. I don't think that the peaceful protests will work because the powers that be will not let them remain peaceful. As was seen with the student protests, police began to kettle people when they were protesting peacefully and then violence ensued.