In Defense of WWII: Part 5 of 5

Buchanan describes the emergence of a "Churchill cult" in America post-9/11, whereby the liberation of Iraq from Saddam was erroneously equated with the liberation of Europe from Hitler. Hanson and Hitchens contend that this diagram is, in fact, correct.

I apologize for the volume of the video.

It's still perfectly viewable, just be warned that it is louder than the other four parts.

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[wanker4761]

That line about Lincoln freeing the slaves is bollocks. He only freed them in the rebel south. Not in the north. As his Sec of State, whose name escapes me pointed out: He freed them where he couldn't free them and didn't where he could.

[AngrySkeptic]

@wanker4761

You couldn't be any more wrong.

Lincoln was concerned that the Emancipation Proclamation would be seen as a temporary war measure and so actively campaigned for the 13th amendment. It was passed by both the House and Senate before his assassination.

Stop reading neo-confederate piffle.

[wanker4761]

@AngrySkeptic I've read it in too many well footnoted books and heard it in several lectures from lettered people to believe you over them. More importantly, what's a "piffle"?

[AngrySkeptic]

@wanker4761

Piffle is an English word meaning nonsense.

Go look at the ratification history of the 13th amendment, what I posted is a simple historical fact.

[wanker4761]

@AngrySkeptic Let's see now. When were the slaves freed? That would be when the 13th Amendment was ratified right? That was Dec 6, '65. Lincoln was shot in April '65. So he never freed a single slave except where he couldn't free them. More importantly, he effectively ended the right of secession which ruined the country. And ignored habeas corpus by illegally imprisoning thousands of Northerners. Suggest you lose the Church of Lincoln piffle. Good word, I must use it more often.

[AngrySkeptic]

@wanker4761

The 13th amendment was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864 and passed by the House on January 31, 1865, and adopted on December 6, 1865.

You are Canadian, so I understand you don't have a full grounding in the Constitutional Amendment process. Lincoln and the Radical Republicans were aware that the Emancipation Proclamation would have to be followed by an amendment. Which it was and that amendment was passed out of the Congress before Lincoln's assassination.

[AngrySkeptic]

@wanker4761

A number of seceded states were already under federal occupation and slaves there were freed.

As for Habeas Corpus, it may be suspended in areas under active rebellion by an act of congress.Article I, Section 9 of the US constitution: "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

[ktgreenway]

This video has two of the best indicators of quality:

A 5-star rating.

Comments written in proper English, without personal attacks.

Thanks for posting!

[oneearth22222]

I've enjoyed watching this discussion. Thanks for posting!

[sirthor00]

Its a great relief to me to come across this kind of inquiry and discussion, as I feel so surrounded by liberal intentions at the University level of indoctrination and revisionism. I have had professors unabashedly promote ideas such as those in Buchanan's book, and those who want America destroyed from within. I don't speak from conspiracy theory opinions, I have literally had debates with these professors who are obsessed with the blame and shame America campaign, and I fear for America.

[4teepee]

This program is nonsense with a hidden agenda. The U.S. did not enter World War II to do good. The world does not work that way. America entered the war because the elite felt its interests threatened and after the country was attacked, not before. In Iraq, U.S. imperialism supported Saddam until it felt him a threat to its interests in that oil-rich part of the world.