@yeadude657 actually its sort of both, but ok... How do you know what kind of relationship should you have with God? Does Jesus really wants us to: unquestionably obey those in power give part of our income to the church turn the other cheek (dont stand up for yourself... family, friends, county...) leave our families, give away all our possessions and become bomb preachers ... it seems too inconvenient, so lets ignore that it!? How do you chose which bits of bible to take seriously?
@futureorreligion The Bible isn't an explanation of the world, but an explanation of God and the relationship we should have with him. It doesn't matter or not if they are 100% literally true. Only one story does, and thats the resurrection. We choose to take them as literal. Also there are no factual origins of Earth. Only that its 4+ billion years old, and that there was a big bang. Also science has a big problem explaining morality outside of basic tribal instincts.
I would like to know how can you feel confident that unverifiable bible's passages about what God/Jesus spoke and wants you to do are true when you do know that the same book describes many verifiable things (including many deeds supposedly done by God) which turned out to be wrong?
Those stories tell us a lot of thinks. Many of those claims can be tested and many cant.
As time goes by, humans discover that more and more of the stories believed to be a literal truth by previous generations are factually wrong, so they become symbolic. Flat earth is just one of many... genesis creation - doesnt fit with the factually verified origins of Earth and life, global flood - didnt happen, tower of babel - wrong explanation for diversity of languages...
@futureorreligion It might come as a suprise to you, but a lot of Christians don't think the bible just dropped from the Heavens. There for a lot of believe that indeed men wrote the bible and used words and stories best suited in depicting what God wants us to know. Have you ever watched a sun set? I assume so, but you must know the sun never sets. Yet you probably refered to it as such. Why? Whether they thought the Earth was flat or not had nothing to do with what was being said in the verse.
futureorreligion 7 months ago
@futureorreligion The Bible isn't an explanation of the world, but an explanation of God and the relationship we should have with him. It doesn't matter or not if they are 100% literally true. Only one story does, and thats the resurrection. We choose to take them as literal. Also there are no factual origins of Earth. Only that its 4+ billion years old, and that there was a big bang. Also science has a big problem explaining morality outside of basic tribal instincts.
yeadude657 7 months ago
@futureorreligion
I would like to know how can you feel confident that unverifiable bible's passages about what God/Jesus spoke and wants you to do are true when you do know that the same book describes many verifiable things (including many deeds supposedly done by God) which turned out to be wrong?
futureorreligion 7 months ago
@yeadude657
Yes.
Those stories tell us a lot of thinks. Many of those claims can be tested and many cant.
As time goes by, humans discover that more and more of the stories believed to be a literal truth by previous generations are factually wrong, so they become symbolic. Flat earth is just one of many... genesis creation - doesnt fit with the factually verified origins of Earth and life, global flood - didnt happen, tower of babel - wrong explanation for diversity of languages...
futureorreligion 7 months ago
@futureorreligion It might come as a suprise to you, but a lot of Christians don't think the bible just dropped from the Heavens. There for a lot of believe that indeed men wrote the bible and used words and stories best suited in depicting what God wants us to know. Have you ever watched a sun set? I assume so, but you must know the sun never sets. Yet you probably refered to it as such. Why? Whether they thought the Earth was flat or not had nothing to do with what was being said in the verse.
yeadude657 7 months ago
@karozans
Have a nice day to you too.
futureorreligion 7 months ago
@futureorreligion
Oh Gee. There it is in 100% plain language. You just totally blew the Bible out of the water with those 2 versus right there.
You are a dumbass, a moron, and idiot, and above all you are a fool.
karozans 7 months ago
@karozans
Pick up your bible and read it yourself.
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)
futureorreligion 7 months ago
@futureorreligion No it doesn't, you dope.
Only the atheist indoctrinated Christian hating sheep think that is the case.
karozans 7 months ago
@karozans
"Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Earth is flat."
Yes it does!
Type this in google "bible passages about flat earth"...
futureorreligion 7 months ago