Re: Whom was Jesus sacrificed to? Trinity Part 2

Father Zechariya Boutros answers some of your questions here regarding the Trinity and shows from the Quran and Islamic traditions that God's presence in a human body does not limit Him.

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[rover98]

i wish ahmed deedat were alive for u!! today people like u wouldn't be in tvs anymore u psyco chritians!

[mrfiji84]

rover98.. father zechariya did challenege ahmed deedat to a debate while he was alive but deedat always refused to challenge anyone who knew about islam.. every opponent ive seen deedat debate hardly knew anything about the quran and the hadith

[Domna7]

@achzdck response : NO, The Dajjal, which perhaps is the anti-Christ that is described to Christians, is the biggest trial in the history of humanity from Adam to the end, he is still alive, imprisoned by God in an unknown Isle (perhaps near the red sea, there is a story about that...), and he will be set free to devastate the world with his perversion for 40 days : a day like a year, a day like a month, a day like a week, then the rest of the days normal. I will continue later when I come back.

[Domna7]

@achzdck " Trinity means 3 together " ---> Even Paul didnt said that nor Jesus, it is a marginal note putted later by a scribe. Verify it.

If he were the father in flesh ,how could he forgive sin ? ---> God doesn't need to become flesh, to lower himself to his creation for forgiving sins, less he need to forgive his son, that is if he were to have one....

" HE said if you see me you " ---> Who is He ? like I said if you verify it isn't Jesus nor Paul.

Think carefully outside of the box...

[Domna7]

@achzdck in the name of the father, etc...is a marginal note put by a scribe putted later in the manuscripts. Did you see the video I sent to you ? you should see it, I'm sure it will interest you. as for the Jews I will respond, after I come back, for the moment I will sent you a 2 videos that resume well the reality of this matter.

Salam to you

[Domna7]

@achzdck For Ezekiel if you look into the CONTEXTUAL explanation of the verses, you will see that it includes Jesus too. And btw, I can give you a lot of example of this contradiction between Jesus teachings and Paul's in the other Hand, they are totally contradicting, look at the origin of the trinity, who establish that ? where is the word mentioned by name, because it is important for Christians nowadays we expect Jesus to mention it at least once...notice that the sentence : in the name of

[Domna7]

@achzdck the message was altered by some evil hands for personal purposes (Romans, Jews etc...)...That's why God sent to all humanity and till the end of time, his last message--> Quran, read it with proper CONTEXTUAL explanation and you will resolve the puzzle, most of you Christians are indeed very near from the truth, you just have to be sincere and courageous enough to go and see outside your box that is Christianity, with an objective and rational view. see the video i sent to you.

PEACE

[Domna7]

@achzdck if you search in the ancient testament there is nowhere where Jesus himself speak about sacrificing himself for the sins of others, on the contrary like i quoted to you :

Ezekiel 18:20 " the son will not bear the iniquity of the father, nor will the father bear the iniquity of the son "

[Domna7]

@achzdck  the problem is that all you are saying is what the Christians understood from the copy of the copy of the copy of the copy of the original manuscript....and this a quote from a well known Christian scholar, and most of this Christians scholars don't believe that the salvation were told by Jesus in the original manuscript...

[Domna7]

@achzdck But then Paul opposed that idea, and introduced a NEW concept, it suffice to go to a priest, a human ,that maybe had sinned more than you and I, and your sins will be pardoned...And like I said your priests that had studied in deep the Christianity, know that and there is a lot of contradictions of this type in the new testament...look in my account the video of the Dr Jerald Dirks, an ancient minister who holds a Master's degree in Divinity from Harvard University.

[Domna7]

@achzdck can you put the source please ? as for me it is Quran, the last message of God, if you want me to show you, it is with pleasure. Secondly, i repeat that, and you can verify it by yourself, Jesus never spoke about him sacrificing himself for the sins of mankind, it is Paul, 300 years ago approximately that INTRODUCED this and the concept of the trinity. in fact in Ezekiel 18:20 " the son will not bear the iniquity of the father, nor will the father bear the iniquity of the son "

[Domna7]

@achzdck PS : don't say Arab but Muslim because Islam isn't entitled to a nation, not every Arab is a Muslim, the biggest Muslim country (Indonesia), isn't Arab...