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Uploaded by on Apr 28, 2008

Continuing with Robert Sungenis.

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  • @kiwichristian2009 How about this is utter rubbish? These are not works, they are sacramental. Each sacrament is taken directly from Christ and the gospel material we have regarding his life and ministry. Emulating Christ is thus made bad by your definition? If you genuinely believe that faith stands alone and must not be evinced by what we do, you have a strange idea of Christianity. Christ is clear on what he instructs us to do! Not just what to believe. The two co exist.

  • Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)

  • when i go to confession i feel so low. then i think of peter and i have hope. peter was such a fool. but he was Gods fool. 265 popes and peter was the weakest and the best. like george washington of usa. st. peter, janitor of heaven, pray for us

  • Paul indeed compromised truth by having Timothy circuscised to please the jews there, (Acts 16), just as Peter had compromised truth for not eating with the gentiles, BUT Paul rebukes Peter not for his teaching, BUT behaviour, AND still submits to his authority by CAllING him the name Christ gave him Simon alone. Cephas,(John 1:42, Cephas is Aramaic for rock.)

  • gthis debate is nonsense!! no good. so mamny talking they cant able to prove their argument in the bibles. coz they dont know where to finde tthe verses to support their claim of argument.. guyss its better u go to the philippines u can find a real ministers of God who can show you verse by verse the proof of what he says.

  • Sungenis makes some brilliant points here.

  • Paul wasn't being contridictry by circumcising Timothy but not Titus. Timothy had a JEWISH mother. That makes HIM Jewish. titus, was fully a Gentile though. Just one mistake there I saw Mr. Sungenis.

  • Read Sungenis' books called "Not by Scripture Alone." And "Not by Faith Alone."

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