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What an obscenity. THIS is 'free-market democracy' the dumbed-down masses endorse, succumbing to corporate-centric propaganda promoted by the mass-media that justified the oligarchic coup which deposed popularly-elected President Zelaya. Honduran public mobilized a nationwide protest strike that anticipated mass uprisings seen in 'Arab Spring' revolts & more recently in Occupy Wall Street movements. Its the SAME globalist corporate crooks, technocrats & sellout politicos betraying WE the 99%!
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@danL1011 I guess we're more or less done presenting our views, and for now disagree on what fixes are needed. I'll leave you with one final thought, though, perhaps clarifying why we disagree: I think that in a democracy worth its' name, there is no need for a "Bill Gates Foundation".
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@TheSlowThinker Jobs's wealth is derived primarily from his creative & marketing genius and the success of the co. he founded. I do not believe in excessive taxation of hard work or simply luck.
Contrast that with the wealth of L. Blankfein which is mostly derived from extracting wealth of others.
A gov't policy of "soaking the rich" does not distinguish b/t the two and is simply STEALING.
Besides, do you REALLY think the gov't will spend the money more wisely than the Bill Gates Foundation?
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@TheSlowThinker Everyone knows the countrys run by companys. More taxes for the poor & nothing for the rich. If they tax the rich theyre scared theyre move to another country. But one term government should tax the rich, make them move country. Let some one else do there job & instead of them making 14billion profit im sure they will be more than willing to do it for a billion profit. Democracy works for them not us, 4 years no one gets held accountable then some one else takes the job.
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@danL1011 Hm, I think this might be a key point where we disagree. The amount of money one has does not measure the amount of work done. So I don't feel bad when the government taxes those who have a special talent for using the system to their advantage, or simply lucking out.
I'm sure Jobs has worked hard in his life, but I know folks folks who have worked really hard and for a lot longer, and yet they have no more influence on society, no more fame, and no more money than the average Joe.
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@donteatthefishsticks [IMO...must pay taxes for the privilege and this money should be distributed ...]
This is not that far off from how the land was taken from freed blacks on Hilton Head so that wealthy whites could build vacation resorts. The whites received the "citizen's dividend" in the form of tax breaks subsidized in part w/ the taxes collected from the evicted poor blacks who could no longer afford the higher taxes that they "must pay".
Be careful what you ask for. ;-}
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@danL1011 It is incompatible with how modern society works, that's true, so IMO, if we are going to have a modern society, everyone who owns something they do not personally use or work with (housing, land, factories, companies, etc) must pay taxes for the privilege and this money should be distributed directly to the people in the form of a citizens' dividend.
the destroying hordes of satan - coming soon to north america! i watched some vid where the banks in the u.s are Bulldozing vacant houses instead of letting people buy cheap affordable housing..
And it matters not the Form of Government it matters that We do not Prosecute any of these wealthy tyrants & corrupt minions, they are never held to the rule of law & jailed or Hung by the neck till Dead! when more see that they want 80% of the earths pop dead - perhaps more will martyr for humanity!
ill318 6 months ago 5
CORPORATISM, kneads/needs material worship, owned population, sheep, sell out spirit/life, buy into fashion/fascism, which kneads/needs fools to be CORPORATE tools, w/ minds kin to monkey, money-lovers, fiat-$-junkies, don costumes, act uniformly/goosestep, PEON/pee on life, protect dolls/toys for the living, earn fools gold/fiat-$ to debase life, bureaucrats cause us to take axe to an orchard & erect a plastic fruit factory. we slave for fiat$ to buy fiat-food, WiTCHES waste, produce of PHARMS
BankofSpirit 6 months ago 4