Transgender Women & Dianic Wicca

A video request and A great topic. These are just my own personal insights and musings =)

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[midnightsunrising]

Men don't have freemasonry, freemasons have freemasonry. Men/masculinity cannot be judged by the standards set by a patriarchal and fraternal organization without making the inescapably bigoted and sexist assumption that you can judge all men on the ideas/standards/understandings of a group that does not and cannot represent all men. If you think of certain people in terms of stereotypes from an intellectually retarded and solipsistic point of view, then you are a textbook example of a bigot.

[avalonmoon91]

@midnightsunrising LOL calm down, no need to get your panties in a twist. I was not judging all men NOR thier masculinity, I think you are making crude assumptions based on little fact, if you choose to be sensitive based on a mere "fleeting comment" and try and turn it into something else then you obviously have far too much time on your hands.

[ShessaWitch]

" I feel that there is a very strong balance between the masculine and feminine energies"

Do you see that this balance has been grossly/horrifically destroyed by the masculine? The world is dying due to the might is right mentality of patriarchy. Maledom has destroyed the True and collective Sacred Feminine? Patriarchy has even given the creative/birthing essence over to ... what else... male gods! I know my ques are blunt, but its just that I get dumbfounded when "sisters" dont see this.

[avalonmoon91]

@ShessaWitch I understand your point, however I think each individual as a human has the right to worship as they see fit without prejudice. I believe there is far too much arguing over sex dominance, is is too much to ask that we each just live our own lives happily without having to strive for dominace or forms of leadership over the other sex ? These agrguments only affect us as much as we let them.

[fleshtheworld]

Are you one?

[avalonmoon91]

@fleshtheworld Could be ........... LOL 

[BehindTheEye999]

I agree with you 100%. People also need to realize that it has been scientifically proven that men who are "women inside" TRULY ARE. Let's see if I can remember correctly...when the physical sex of the fetus has been determined, the appropriate hormones are released into it. Male hormones are released into male fetuses, and female hormones to female fetuses. HOWEVER, sometimes things go "wrong" where a physical male fetus receives female hormones and vice-versa. They TRULY ARE WOMEN.

[hipretty]

amazing video a.

[DroneOfVelvet]

I'm glad for everyone who accepts transgendered women. I'm a pagan, and a woman myself, but I have been with a transgendered woman for over 10 years. They are real woman. I also consider myself a feminist and I think that women who cannot see that transgendered women face the same challenges, if not more, than ciswomen. Thanks everyone who is accepting and can see things beyond the norms.

[LaStregaGrigria]

I feel that, in my personal opinion, Dianic Wicca is a tradition that is quite hypocritical, simply because of the fact that it is a WICCAN tradition, meaning that they follow the "Wiccan Rede". This means that they for the most part accept everyone, however sense the death of both the Women and the MAN, who started the tradition, its new leaders (such as Z Budapest), exclude men. Dianic Wicca is a tradition who follows the Goddess Diana Specifically, men can do this as well. Great Video:)

[LaStregaGrigria]

I feel that, in my personal opinion, Dianic Wicca is a tradition that is quite hypocritical, simply because of the fact that it is a WICCAN tradition, meaning that they follow the "Wiccan Rede". This means that they for the most part accept everyone, however sense the death of both the Women and the MAN, who started the tradition, its new leaders (such as Z Budapest), exclude men. Dianic Wicca is a tradition who follows the Goddess Diana Specifically, men can do this as well.

[midnightsunrising]

@avalonmoon91 Haha okay, I probably do have too much time on my hands. Obviously I have strong feelings about gender-based meritocratic groups like Z Budapest's. I guess I'm especially sensitive to patriarchal ones like the Masons, because with my Mormon upbringing, I've had enough of the influence of the Masons on gender roles and other sexism within that church. I can be such a bastard some times when I feel like I'm judged based on what I've distanced myself from. Sorry.

[sariachica85xo]

(part 2) And to add to my previous comment, I shouldn't have used the word fake. What I meant was women who aren't women with a rare genetic disorder causing their bodies to develop male from birth. But fake is the wrong word because part of my beliefs of reincarnation is that energies are constantly recycled. Our spirits return to the earth and then we will be reincarnated in a new life. So in example the spirit of a woman may be reincarnated in a male body for whatever reason.

[sariachica85xo]

I agreed with everything in your video until you referred to being trans as a lifestyle choice. One of the major problems is that there are real women that develop physically as male that doctors still label as transsexual even though it difers from the fake women which are men that want to be women by choice. The two get mixed up because even though its been proven the test groups have been so small they haven't corrected the labeling of these real women and throw them in with the by choice 1s