Searching for Evolutionists Who will Defend Their Position (DEBATE DODGERS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re6d-EvKkbA
Archaeology: Digging for the Truth of the Bible - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWawVUZg3Es
Merrill Frederick Unger (1909-1980) was a Bible commentator, scholar, and theologian. He earned his A.B. and Ph.D degrees at Johns Hopkins University, and his Th.M and Th.D degrees at Dallas Theological Seminary
The Location of the Siloam Inscription
[...when] (the tunnel) was driven through. And this was the way in which it was cut through: While [...] (were) still [...] axe(s), each man toward his fellow, and while there were still three cubits to be cut through, [there was heard] the voice of a man calling to his fellows, for there was an overlap in the rock on the right [and on the left]. And when the tunnel was driven through, the quarrymen hewed (the rock), each man toward his fellow, axe against axe; and the water flowed from the spring toward the reservoir for 1200 cubits, and the height of the rock above the head(s) of the quarrymen was 100 cubits.
To elaborate.
There are innumerable books of fiction that contain huge amounts of factual data; real events, real people, real places. Yet, no one seriously makes the claim that because there are so many historically accurate details Robert Ludlum's "Jason Bourne" actually exists or that the supernatural events in a Steven King novel really occurred.
VoiceOfReasonXXX 3 days ago
I don't dispute the examples.
The problem I have is that the speaker and many others trying to prove the legitimacy of the Bible don't get that no matter how many "facts", incidences, names, events in the Bible can be supported by other sources, this does not prove that the entire book is 100% accurate. In particular, to claim that the supernatural events depicted in the Bible are true and the proof is that several natural events depicted in the Bible are corroborated is ridiculous.
VoiceOfReasonXXX 3 days ago
@vjholliday The fact that you refer to a talking snake shows the understanding of a 6 year old.
Ever hear of a metaphor? Snakes had great symbolic meaning in other ancient cultures. And WHO is ignorant?
The Bible spoke of the universe having a beginning thousands of years before Eintein proved it. Lucky guess, I suppose- like the great deluge being, which has been proven, as well.
Vaekkrinhart 1 week ago
@vjholliday lol you should read the bible properly..
jaeare100 1 week ago
Creationist don't have a position to defend. they are deniars of some one else's position. Ask any creationist to link the bible with the origin of the universe. All they will have is a magical story that includes two naked people in a garden and a talking snake. It's like taling to a 6 year old child.
vjholliday 2 weeks ago
@Davemustang2600 If you have degree, I doubt you would nitpick about the word um. Thats something people who have nothing smart to say do. Maybe you should have gotten that degree in common sense and archaeology. You might understand the bible better for what it is. A historical book borrowed from cultures and exaggerated immensely. Stupid. A degree in theology is fucking useless. Congrats bro.
cageofrage69 2 weeks ago
@cageofrage69
Paul wasnt expecting Jesus returning. Thats why he kept saying he wanted to give himself an offering meaning martyrdom. He was in a hurry to get out of here but he didnt expect to leave via Rapture or Second Coming.
In fact, Christians that were expecting Jesus to return quickly Paul scolded and told them to get off their butts and go to work. Thats where the famous Pauline quote 'If you dont work you dont eat' comes from.
Davemustang2600 2 weeks ago
@cageofrage69
If you did more homework than you did repeating other idiots assumptions we wouldnt be having this conversation.
Jesus in that moment referred to what Scholars call 'The Fig Tree Generation' Its this generation that see ALL the prophesies fulfilled concerning His returning. The disciples stayed in a state of confusion about what Jesus said because He referred to things beyond their ability to reason when He first spoke them.
Davemustang2600 2 weeks ago
@cageofrage
You typed the word Um? Is that even a word? I thought that was a sound people made when their mouths were moving in place of their brains.
I have a degree in Theology stupid. You dont understand context. Nor do you understand how Jesus spoke and how he referred to things. When referring to the Temple. Jesus said 'Destroy this temple and I will raise it up in 3 days.' Jesus wasnt referring to the temple however his disciples thought he was. He was talking about Him
Davemustang2600 2 weeks ago
@Davemustang2600 Um yes, jesus did imply to his apostles that he would come again in their lifetime. All that talk about getting the church redy for his return and all that. Paul for sure thought he was coming back. The bible leaves details out, but if you use common sense, this is put together easily
cageofrage69 2 weeks ago