Sweaty Bob Hegan, a stupid abortion protester attacks a plant

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[ClumsyRoot]

@circushead

On the contrary, it's a reality check that helps to underscore the fact that "pure" ideals held in the abstract (usually, but not always, for religious reasons) are often at odds with real-world moral decisions.

Let's face it, you'd save the little girl. How do you reconcile such a action with your stated principles?

[circushead]

@ClumsyRoot Your hypothetical exercise is a very real waste of time, signifying nothing, 

[ClumsyRoot]

@circushead

You seem intent upon misunderstanding me.

I don't want the government to "monitor sexual congress" or require people to use birth control, any more than I want it to force women to have children they don't want. In a free society, such decisions must be made by the individuals involved.

What I would like is for people to be educated about contraception and have easy (ideally, free) access to it. What they do after that is up to them.

[ClumsyRoot]

@circushead

You continue to make jokes in order to avoid a fair but uncomfortable question.

If you tell me that you'd carry out the vat of embryos and leave behind the five-year-old girl to burn to death, then I will grant that you are completely consistent on this issue. Until then, I can't help but conclude that you're evading.

[circushead]

@ClumsyRoot

"I was pointing out the inconsistency of those who would want it "rare" and still maintain that it has no moral implications."

I agree. I thought you were endorsing that position.

Here's my position: life begins at conception. An unborn child is a person and has the right to life. Calling the child an embryo doesn't deny it that right, nor does the fact that the child not an adult woman.

Also, I try to avoid hypothetical hospitals especially when they are aflame.

[circushead]

@ClumsyRoot You said you'd like to focus on policies that reduce unwanted pregnancies in the first place. Since you think that if abortion was illegal it would result in the government monitoring women's bodies, I guess that policies reducing unwanted pregnancies would mean the government would have to monitor sexual congress.

There's no such thing as an unwanted pregnancy. We know what comes of intercourse. The baby they create wants to be alive. There's an adoption waiting list.

[ClumsyRoot]

@circushead

"You want the government to stop people from fucking?" How on earth did you get THAT out of what I wrote? If it's not obvious to you yet, I'm a libertarian at heart.

I'd like to see people show more responsibility when it comes to sex. To that end, I support public policies that encourage the correct use of contraception.

People are going to fuck--we know this from experience. And the fact remains that the best way to reduce abortions is to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

[ClumsyRoot]

@circushead

I suspect you didn't address the question because you knew your answer would contradict your claim that an embryo and a child are due equal moral consideration.

I never said "there's nothing wrong with abortion." I was pointing out the inconsistency of those who would want it "rare" and still maintain that it has no moral implications.

[circushead]

@ClumsyRoot You want the government to stop people from fucking? Don't you find that a tad draconian?

[circushead]

@ClumsyRoot I haven't told you why I don't play golf, either. I find both playing golf and your 'thought experiment' to be wastes of my time.

You haven't told me why anyone would blithely accept the mantra "safe, legal and rare" for abortion.

If there's nothing wrong with abortion, why would anyone care to make them rare. And if abortion is actually murder, why would anyone condone them.

The only answer is "it's murder, but screw those babies, they're little." Bad argument, IMHO.