WHY Teaching Creationism Is Wrong

"Why we should not 'teach both and let the kids decide', or 'teach the controversy'.

This is also aimed at the Polk Country School Board, who recently received a public flogging for supporting ID be taught as well in the curriculum.

3 Cheers for a willful return to the dark ages!" - DE2

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Creationism
• Intelligent Design
• ID
• Brain Donor
• donexodus2
• evolution
• biology
• christianity
• catholicism
• organised religion
• atheism
• dawkins
• dennett
• harris
• hitchens

[butchdeadlift10]

I am thirty seconds in and here is what I have to say to creationists (and only creationists);

1) let the kids decide? What do you think a school is? Should they decide what math is? Should they be allowed to say "you know what would make a better PE class? A giant TV and an Xbox because I can exhaust myself playing Halo as easily as running laps....)

2) What if the universe is billions of years old? What if we were once Monkeys instead of dirt....you can still have Jesus in this. Get over it

[playd76]

@Squweesh

1//

The term 'creationist scientist' is a contradiction in terms. No real scientist could ever be a creationist. If they are then they lose all credibility as they show clear bias to their personal beliefs where they begin with the conclusion then desperately try to force the evidence to fit. That is not how science works, in facts it's completely opposite. Credible scientists form there conclusion on the evidence & don't allow silly things like unfounded, religious......

[laprofessorapai]

Well said!

[blarson12]

The reason why creationism can jumped to the front of the line is because of religion and the religious majority. The majority of mankind have been brainwashed into thinking that everything in the bible is true. The bible is just an old new age book that lies to it's readers. Creationism=religion=pagan cults=satanism=the illuminati. They are all tied together and want to mislead mankind. They want to replace the truth with lies. Creationism has no place in schools where we search for the truth.

[Squweesh]

@playd76 man your so right, all this time i have been so blind i just keep looking at my devotions and bible for proof. I have NEVER looked at any science behind it. Man thanks you just saved me from being an ignorant idiot.

[playd76]

3#

........processes evolution proceeds. Creation incidentally was rejected as a scientific theory prior to Darwin's arrival. I suggest you look at things in a little more depth & quit obtaining your 'science' from religious sources. You may as well go to a car mechanic for medical advice.

[playd76]

2#

You still rejecting beneficial mutations even though i've given you numerous examples which you've conveniently ignored just as every good creationist must. Another relevant point is that such mutations are difficult to find because how many people do you know go to the doctors to tell them they're feeling great?

Even if evolutionary theory was overturned (now impossible), evolution would still be an incontrovertible fact. We'd simply require another theory to show by what.........

[playd76]

@Squweesh

1#

"when i saya creationist scientist i mean a scientist who belives in creation"

Try finding a so called 'creation scientist' alive who has done anything to enhance our scientific understanding. Creation scientists make up 0.0001% of the biological community, & all just so happen to be religious fundamentalists. Does that not tell you something?

Why don't you give me some evidence for creation because i'm yet to see one iota that stands up to scrutiny.

[playd76]

@Squweesh

Creationist have to be biased. Creationists begin with the presupposition that their chosen deity created the universe & everything in it 6,000 - 10,000yrs ago then desperately try to force the evidence to fit, discarding all evidence that conflicts with this. That is NOT science. Real scientists have no presuppositions & follow the evidence wherever it leads no matter what. No matter what you think, creationists ARE dumb & cannot be trusted, they blatantly lie & purposely mislead.

[playd76]

@Squweesh

Evolution IS a proven fact, you just don't understand, or you're simply not aware of the evidence. You need to realise that we have 300yrs of empirically gathered evidence, EVERY shred of which supports evolutionary predictions. Can you explain the nested hierarchy of genes in terms of creation for instance?

There is no question amongst the scientific community, evolution hasn't been in question since the mid 19th century & the only people who reject it do so on scriptural grounds.

[Squweesh]

yeah i dont think one of us are gonna walk out of this thinking something different lol. But yeah i mean i have watched alot on evolution and i read about it all the time. I signed up for biology in school and got my book during summer just so i could read up on evolution. But that was after i posted the comment about the mutations. But if i were to vote i would not let my religion get into play, i would let my moral though. we would both stand up for what is right.

[TheJudoKevin]

@Squweesh There was nothing political about it. You have a belief in supernatural explanations for origins which is fine- except if you're going to vote on laws that I have to live with.

You can view evolution occurring on daily basis. You can take part in it yourself by reproducing. Take the time to read a science book, or if your feeling lazy, watch something from donexodus, csbair, etc.

Don't run away - we can keep discussing these topics - perhaps you can pursuade me.