Walt Whitman on Shakespeare aka 17th Earl of Oxford

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[amaxamon]

Let's not stop here, we also must "teach the controversy" about Intelligent Design, further investigate the Holocaust Hoax, get to the bottom of the Kennedy assassination and uncover the truth behind the Roswell crash. Good work!

[edboswell]

@amaxamon You obviously know nothing on this fascinating subject, so why show your ignorance by popping off? If I asked you 100 questions about Elizabethan history or the 17th Earl of Oxford, I doubt that you'd be able to answer more than 10 questions correctly. Remember that we are a gullible species, and your snide remarks are reminders that people laughed at anyone crazy enough to thing the world was round, or that the earth orbited the sun.

[amaxamon]

@edboswell You're right. Your knowledge of Oxford and the Elizabethan Era suggests to me that you must possess a time machine: how else could you possibly know so much about that time? Surely not from books (a laughable idea!). In fact, if I can find enough parallels between your life and Oxford's, I must be led to believe that you not only own a time machine but that you *were* Oxford!! Thank you for enlightening me, m'lord.

[edboswell]

@amaxamon  You're a contentious fool. This conversation is over.

[edboswell]

@amaxamon You obviously know nothing on this fascinating subject, so why show your ignorance by popping off? If I asked you 100 questions about Elizabethan history or the 17th Earl of Oxford, I doubt that you'd be able to answer more than 10 questions correctly. Remember that we are a gullible species, and your snide remarks are reminders that people laughed at anyone crazy enough to thing the world was round, or that the earth orbited the sun.

[Azariaadele]

Whitman's lines are brilliant rhetoric, but that say much more about his own aims as a poet than they do about Shakespeare - as any Whitman critic will tell you. Whitman's interpretation of Shakespeare is not sustainable - unless you are Tillyard - and assume that Shakespeare exhibited no satire, wit, humor, about Elizabethan ideology (the "cast" system, the Great Chain of Being). Unfortunately, Whitman is also ungracious. He wants to eliminate a rival - by making him all that America rejects.

[amaxamon]

@edboswell Yep...no response. PS: There never was a "conversation."

[GreatOxford]

Must reading: Mark Anderson's "Shakespeare By Another Name" (2005). For a top editor at Oxford Press to say "Who cares?" reveals appalling insensitivity. Anderson shows countless instances of autobiographical references in the plays, including the heretofore inexplicable episodes in Hamlet: the pirates and the review of Danish troops. They both happened to Oxford. Othello's jealousy? Oxford had his Iago. The Italian plays? Oxford spent years in Italy in exactly the same city as an envoy.

[carefulcarpenter]

"Genius creates; others imitate"

~~cc

Bloodlines: DeVere, Hall, Sidney, Tudor, Wriothesley, Devereux, Herbert, Raleigh

[cwhanna]

@Jha49513 correct the E. Deveres bible has highlighted sections and notes in the marginalia that get quoted in the plays.