Reality As It Is - Part 1 of 8

Mechanistic philosophy is false and illogical

Traditional Vedic wisdom applied to modern society. Certain knowledge based on universal principles. A framework for agreement and cooperation. Consciousness, not matter, as the prime reality and the symptom of spirit. Inconceivable potency - fundamentally beyond the reach of material science - as the basis for our conscious existence and the physical world in which we live. The relationship between the individual conscious self and the Universal Conscious Self as the basis of life. Vedic conscious science points out the falsity and irrationality of material scientism, and gives foundation for understanding and living.

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Science & Technology

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• Vedic
• consciousness
• scientism
• objectivity
• science
• materialism
• evolution
• subjectivity
• reality
• religion
• atheism

[lordofyourmind]

These arguments are clear and precise. I haven't heard so little assumptions and dogma in a long-ass time. I consider myself a postmodernist in in the sense that things can't be 'objectively' known or proven, but even I see reality illumiated in these words. Damn proofs altogether, there's best a pure logical inquirey and living from now.

[BVNemi]

Thanks for your encouragement. You're obviously a seeker and enquired. What are your fields of interest?

[BVNemi]

You're avoiding the issue. Extrapolating laws back in time is one thing, and speculating that time, space and causality appeared out of nothing is another.

I'm not talking religion. I haven't put forward any irrational or unsupportable belief.

Let's get down to basics. Do you maintain that everything in the universe is running purely according to physical laws or not? What is your position?

500 words at a time.

[Noudownt]

I've been reluctant to express myself completely on these matters. But, it's frustrating to try to have this conversation 500 words at a time. So, I've decided to make a vlog. It's going to take at least a week, maybe two. When complete, I'll post a reply.

[BVNemi]

Noudownt *knows* that "no one actually knows anything." Ooops. Bubu. Knowledge is a positive and undeniable principle. We want to know. OK, no absolute proof, but we can say definitely what is *the most consistent explanation*, and which explanations *do not make sense*. The Vedic model of self and Universal Self is consistent and can be verified by spiritual practice. The materialistic myth "only matter exists, only physical laws act" is inconsistent and illogical. This is useful certainty.

[Noudownt]

Just another new-age charlatan. If this guy were x-tian he'd be called a fundy. Science and scientists do not "try to explain everything" through science and materialism. Science is just a framework for accurately and unambiguously exploring and reporting about the physical properties of our universe. It still requires "consciousness" to evaluate and use the information. And, "consciousness" is still capable of interpreting the information badly or wrongly; just as this "swami" has done.

[BVNemi]

Yes, science IS meant to report physical properties of our universe. However, the scientific community makes statements about reality that are way outside the range of their observations. Evolution theory, "life comes from matter" and the Big Bang theory are gospel in academia. However, neither evolution nor biogenesis nor the big bang are observed or observable physical properties of the universe. Let's get real. Your statements are inconsistent with what's going on in the real world.

[Xearf]

Why does the video keep freezing?

[radhacharan]

all you say is, your not qualified to understand, you have only made your self look dumb. And i can bet you wont be done answering my posts, you will post again, you wont be able to resist lol.

The MAJOR failure of evolution is that IT HAS DISPLAYED ZERO MUTATIONS THAT CAN FORM HEALTHY ORGAN TISSUE, PLACE IT IN JUST THE CORRECT POSITION ON THE HOST FOR UTILITY, IN JUST THE CORRECT AMOUNT, AND IT WOULD NEED MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUTATIONS, YOU FAIL TO NAME ANY. Hare Krishna, Gaura!

[rokkvi1]

And I think I´ve made you look dumb enough for any decently intelligent viewer reading this, so this is where enough is enough. I´m done answering your constant posts.

[rokkvi1]

It´s ridiculous to even use the term "evo scientist" because an overwhelming majority of scientists are for evolution. Not only that but scientist are less religious in general. The higher the degree of the scientist, the less likely they are to be religious. If they´ve won a Nobel´s price they are overwhelmingly likely to be atheists.

You don´t really have the intellectual capacity to understand evolution so all I could possibly get out of this argument is to make you look dumb.

[rokkvi1]

It really does not matter that you do not have the capacity to think of how it can happen. Fact is, the vast majority of the science community agrees on this. Much of the evolution of the eye is understood and explained already. I am willing to bet you do not have a degree in science or any real qualifications on the subject and you are obviously just not very bright. Your opinion is of no consequence.

[rokkvi1]

Do you know the meaning of a question mark? It´s this symbol here "?" and it is used for questions, not statements. "Wonder what he put in there. Grave insults or threats even?" Is not a statement, it´s just pondering and thus does not demand proof. Saying you never insult is also wrong because you called me a science illiterate, which is an insult.

You are obviously pretty illiterate in general, not just in science.

[radhacharan]

Pour a bunch of EVERY biochemical needed to make cells into a beaker, give it the best temperature, pressure, and conditions imaginable, and see what happens. We both know what will. Muck will be the result, in a very short time. thats all folks

[radhacharan]

The idea of 130 million retinal cells collecting a visual image, codifying that image, sending the code through 130 million connected nerve fibers to the visual cortex of the brain which decodes and forms the incredible images that we see is simply beyond imagination. The idea that these cells can casually evolve over eons without a plan is simply beyond unthinkable. and yet no evolutionary mechanism is known, this is just one of my arguments. Have fun dreaming abt this rokkvi

[Rasabihariji]

a plant is conscious. it has no brain.

that's like saying remove the engine from a car and expect it to drive. a car without a driver will not drive, despite any engine removal or not. a soul can only inhabit a capable body. when damaged the soul is forced to leave.

the human body is nothing but a machine. it needs to be operated. its totally mechanistic. how on earth can u say it is conscious and can think or have emotion? utter madness.

[radhacharan]

lol actually i couldnt post a reply for a long time, so i decided to test it by posting "bhdfbsdfsk", it posted fine. So i deleted it. then i realised that youtube cant post website addresses (URL's) thats why my comments were rejected. so ur talking nonsense again, without any evidence, just like you evo scientists do all day long. I never threaten or insult, its not my nature. for a man with a science degree to assume that, without any evidence is rather strange lol. funny science man :P lol