Again, O Muslim, What Is The Book IF It's Not The Bible?

O Muslim, IF the Bible IS my book and NOT Allah's then WHAT is the "Book" that makes "People of the Book"? WHAT are the "before Scriptures" the Qur'an says it's confirming and reminding? WHAT are the Torah and Injil and the before Scriptures IF they aren't a part of the Bible NOR the Bible?

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• Allah's words
• Torah
• Injil
• before scriptures
• People of the Book
• Jews
• Christians
• Muslims

[RammatRamzi]

@Flying50000Ys

So, whenever the "clear signs" say "Taurat", it's talking abou the Ten Commandments? Where in the "clear signs" does it say that it's ONLY the Ten Commandments? And, since you think Commandment 1, 2 and 9 are wrong, the Torah is REALLY corrupt? If so, HOW can you "stand firm" upon the Torah (5:68)?

[RammatRamzi]

@Flying50000Ys

I'm sure they do, if you don't count Messianic Jews. By the way, do you, or, do you not, believe the Injil to be a BOOK given to Isa?

[Flying50000Ys]

@RammatRamzi Something else, Moses had the ten commandments (book), Muhammad had The Qurán (Book), do you wanna know how is it with Jesus, I don't think so, You are programmed, you are not searching for the truth.

[Flying50000Ys]

Ramzi, this story about your wife and children meant as a joke, but because you are programmed to hate Islam, you didn't see it was a joke, Plus the original rule Nr 9 in the ten commandments says 'Don't lie' it is been corrupted by someone got inspiration from god, Believe me, Jews people themselves laugh at the Christian trinity.

[RammatRamzi]

"The word book of Injil never mentioned anywhere,"

"Clear signs" 9:111: Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an." The Quran is NOT a book?

[RammatRamzi]

Oh, and, here is yet ANOTHER one: Say (O Muhammad SAW)] "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail (i.e. "clear signs")." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt. S. 6:114

[RammatRamzi]

@RammatRamzi

Oh, here's ANOTHER one from the "clear signs" that makes it sound like the Injil IS a book: "Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (cause he was stupid?), whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel [Injil] (which are) with them. S. 7:157 Pickthall

[RammatRamzi]

@RammatRamzi

Oh, by the way, I found something in the "clear signs" that seems to contradict the notion that the Injil is NOT a book, with: "And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient". That was "clear signs" surah 5:47. I mean HOW can I judge what's in the "clear signs" if I don't have a book to judge "clear signs" with?

[RammatRamzi]

@Flying50000Ys

So, in the "clear signs" surah 5:68, it's a BOOK with the Torah, but, some words by Jesus with the Injil that one is to stand firm upon? You SURE about that? IF you are, then you need to tell Wiki that has it as "The Injil (Arabic: إنجيل‎ ʾInǧīl) is the Arabic name for the original Gospel of Jesus, and one of the four Islamic Holy Books the Qur'an"...Holy...BOOKs. Did you see the word "Books"?

[RammatRamzi]

@Flying50000Ys

Yeah, you can write a Bible and a Gospel, and, it will be inspired by God. But, the "Book" (that makes "People of the Book") will be more special, for it's the "Sword of the Lord".