Greg Paul & The Problem of Evil (Part 1) - The Atheist Experience 719

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The Atheist Experience #719 of July 24, 2011, with Matt Dillahunty, Don Baker and (on the phone) Greg Paul. Topic: Greg Paul and the problem of evil. Greg Paul calls in again and talks about his latest paper on the holocaust of children.

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[DerivedEnergy]

There's no 'free' will anyway. It's a logically incoherent notion and it comes from religeon, not science.

[chadwick0091]

@DerivedEnergy hmm, interesting thought. what kind of will do you think people have? if any at all...

[flubno]

Alot of really bad diseases actually came from animals. Not wild animals, but when humans started hording animals on farms , for food. Because it's in unhealthy and in unnatrual conditions. The native Americans grew veggies and hunted for meat , and they didn't have any nasty dieases to give back to the Europeans.

[chadwick0091]

@flubno that which is found in nature is natural. so when you say "unnatural" I think what you actually mean is "unusual." just a thought =) (I meant to post this on the comments, not send you a message lol)

[faithisfiction]

CS Lewis has not explained the problem of evil, CS Lewis attempted to rationalise his faith.

There's a difference.

[chadwick0091]

@QuestionForAtheists that's how nature works.... 'nuff said

[jacksawild]

@chadwick0091 For all intents and purposes our will is free but as we live in a deterministic universe then it could be argued that our free will is also predetermined. The answer probably isn't simple.

[WhiteDragon103]

@chadwick0091 Three concepts to consider here:

Natural

Artificial

Supernatural

;)

[mdt2189]

@DerivedEnergy I'm an atheist, but I still accept the concept of free will. We may not understand everything about how the brain makes decisions, but I feel that declaring free will nonexistent is dangerous in that it allows people escape the responsibility of their actions.

[JapanLessons]

Dr Paul 2012!!

[RamoneHoffman]

@QuestionForAtheists Evoking emotion proves nothing of God's existence. You are using sidelong tactics to prove something completely unrelated.

[elibeth121]

@bman16407 Evil in the world is an obscure and painful mystery.One thing we know for sure, is God is 100 percent good, he can never be the orginator of evil. Moral evils, in contrast come about through the misuse of freedom of the world.Freedom would be no freedom at all if it were not the freedom to choose even what is wrong.

[elibeth121]

@DerivedEnergy Freedom would be no freedom at all if we not the freedom to choose even what is wrong. It must violate the dignity of a man if we did not respect his freedom. One of the central duties of the State is to protect the liberties of all its citizens, (freedom of religion, assembly, association, freedom of opinion, freedom of ones occupation and so on. The freedom of one citizen is the limit to the freedom of another.

[bman16407]

@faithisfiction i don't get it. whats the problem of evil? i still don't understand

[AvalonDraconis]

@romans52345 No, he doesn't believe in god. He think the Christian god is an immoral and evil thing if it did exist, but he doesn't believe any god exists. There is a difference between thinking the idea of a certain god is good and moral and believing in that god. Matt is an atheist and an anti-theist.

[romans52345]

I think Matt Believes in God, he just does not worship Him and he firmly Hates Him..