United Front - Ostmark

United Front is a minimod for Forgotten Hope 2, a Battlefield 2 mod. Currently we are focusing on the Eastern Front, but other theaters and new weapons are also being done. In this video you can see one of our maps, Ostmark. There's also an M4A3R Flame Sherman, an M4A1 Sherman armed with a 105mm Howitzer, the M2 Carbine and the Panzerfaust 100.

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Gaming

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• forgotten
• hope
• battlefield
• fh2
• uf
• united
• front

[MuchoFunkie]

@jadger1871 Sure it does, in your imagination

[jadger1871]

@MuchoFunkie it goes to show that the source you cited is full of shit

[MuchoFunkie]

@jadger1871 What the shit dude, I'm simply stating facts, that does not make me a "Germanophile", I'm Danish nevertheless. And what does the Poland campaign having to do with any of our subsequent discussions or arguments to do? The first flight of the ME 262 was TWO years before the first flight of the Gloster, and yes, the Gloster was the first fully-produced Jet, overrunning the ME 262 by two months, but I never stated otherwise - Definitions are definitions, don't change them.

[MuchoFunkie]

@RiktigaFimpen I never stated anything about that their victories were in contribution to their superior technology, stop making up your own assumptions out of my interpretation. I know that the German's won over the French, despite the French having slightly more manpower, heavily superior tanks, and more of them not to mention. I simply stated that they were superior in technology, not that they were superior in any other way, as in tactics and strategy (In late war), but simply in technology

[RiktigaFimpen]

@MuchoFunkie Yes but see, your examples of "superior technology" was not really valid. Neither the NV devices, computers or jet fighters did help the Germans win their stunning early war victories. They were won by great leadership and tactics. Heck, most tanks used in the early war were obsolete and inferior to their Allied counterparts.

[jadger1871]

@MuchoFunkie because wikipedia is always right. being such a Germanophile, you should look up the Polish September Campaign on that website. It says that Poland was never defeated in the war. And with the 262/meteor you are splitting hairs. The meteor went into production before the 262, but reached units less than a month after the 262. So, my point that the Meteor was the first production operational jet fighter still stands.

[MuchoFunkie]

@jadger1871 Aye you are right in your definition, but not on your facts... Go to the wikipedia site, and look under "List of jet aircraft of World War II. It says that the Gloster was the first ALLIED operational jet-aircraft. However if you go down under the category of German, you see that the ME 262 was the WORLDS FIRST operational jet-aircraft.

[jadger1871]

@MuchoFunkie The HE 178 was a prototype, it did not go operational. "Operational" in military terms means to be assigned/supplied to a combat unit, the HE178 (HE because it was Heinkel not Horton) never went beyond the prototype stage. The HE178 was only produced into two vehicles, one of which only ever flew as a glider, it never had an engine.

[MuchoFunkie]

@jadger1871 I never said that they were the same Jet-planes in any way, I'm saying that you are wrong about the first operational jet plane being the Gloster, it wasn't, the Horten 178 was. Ho 229 (often called Gotha Go 229 due to the identity of the chosen manufacturer of the aircraft) was a late–World War II prototype fighter/bomber (Source: Wikipedia), so yeah, we both have a valid point.

[jadger1871]

@MuchoFunkie The 178 was not a prototype for the 262, it was a totally different aircraft. And the HO 229 was a bomber, Hermann Goering only said to add autocannons as the expected top speed was so much higher than other fighters