The Wives of Henry VIII (episode2, part2/5)

Divorce beheading death in childbirth exile..The women who married henry viii are best known for the way their lives ended. Yet these 6 queens also possessed seductive guile & extraordinary political skill in the face of dangerous court intrigues.

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[BeeVan19]

I can't tell you how much I appreciate you posting this... its wonderful :D I love learning about this stuff!

[cupidxxrawr]

@kiddooo10 No, I don't. You can be a home wrecker without sleeping with some one. She knew how he would react when she refused to sleep with him. When Henry doesn't get what he wants he goes after it. it was only after he met anne that he decided to divorce Kathrine. Yes Henry was a monster, but Anne drove him into that position. She was the whole reason that he made himself of the head of the church of england, so he could divorce Kathrine and marry Anne.

[Redluna32]

@cupidxxrawr I can agree with the fact that Anne was the one that pushed Henry to make himself head of the Church of England and that she shaped him into what he later became. However, Anne is by no means solely responsible for Henry leaving Katherine. Even if she wasn't there, Henry would have still wanted the divorce. He was looking for any way to get out of leaving his throne to a female heir out of risk of civil war.

[Strefanasha]

@madeleineakaino to show how she maliciously gloated over her favour, I think.

the whole affair was profoundly disgusting. The King had no Biblical warrant for his adulterous liason : his appeal to Leviticus 20:21 is specious, having wrenched that verse out of context

[miltsar]

I find the comments about Ann Boleyn being a whore etc and breaking up a marriage hilarious....as if we were watching an episode of Real Housewives or some soap opera.This is historical machination for power at the highest level not an episode in Kim Kardashian's life.

I wonder if all these people are as concerned with the trice married Newt (he's 1/2 way to Henry in that department )

[black8sherry]

"...left her dangerously depended on a SINGLE THING, Henry's love and support.." -dude, thats 2 things. lol

[IsobelDeBrujah]

It is ridiculous to blame Anne for Henry's position. Further, it shows a total lack of understanding for both the historical context and the role of women at the time. As is shown in any factual viewing of his life Henry VIII did what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it and once he had decided on a course of action nothing was going to sway him. When he didn't get his way he found ways around other alliances and agreements he had made. His first marriage was no different.

[madeleineakaino]

for god's sake why does anne boleyn's actress have that weird funny smile sticked on her face all the time?

[NYCBlonde]

@cupidxxrawr Also I must correct this--Henry did NOT leave the Catholic Church. This is a common misconception. Henry just made himself the head of the church in England--it was about power & to some extent money (the smashing of the monasteries). Even ANNE died a Catholic--she was a reformist & promoted the new learning but she made a final confession & died as a Catholic. Later Cath. Parr was a secret Protestant & nearly was arrested as a result b/c Henry was very much against Protestantism.

[NYCBlonde]

@cupidxxrawr You don't have to like her--she did some really crappy things, like her behavior of Mary which was reprehensible. But blame her for what she actually did, not what he did. (And if you think Henry made himself the head of church for her, you misunderstand Henry, an absolute monarch. He loved Anne but he knew what he was doing.) Google "the myth of male weakness," the idea that men are so susceptible to women's sexuality that they are easily manipulated. A very old, dangerous trope.

[cupidxxrawr]

@NYCBlonde knew what she was doing. You are taking this way out of proportion. I said that I didn't have sympathy for her - just like she had no sympathy for Catherine. So yes, your right when you said that it was his choice, but she was the catalyst. without her he never would have gotten the book 'obedience of a christian man', he never would have left the catholic church and he wouldn't have made himself head of the church. so i'm not misogynistic, i'm basing my opinion on fact.

[cupidxxrawr]

@NYCBlonde So you are saying that a man with a long line of sleeping with women behind his back isn't proof that she knew what she was doing when he started to become interested in him? She chose to 'give herself over' to him as his wife. He had a choice of leaving her alone or to do what she wanted. and he did so. I am not talking about other women or how people use the argument about 'how men can't help themselves'- im talking about Anne. It wasn't sexist to say that she (c)