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[Frankster177]

If you want to be a sell out then go ahead

but leave these boards for people who appreciate cars with history, soul and culture.

[kickittome70]

Thats right but the morons here dont want to know

[AdamAus85]

Ford man here, but the VK and VL were good looking cars in their time. VL > VK design wise obviously.

[flossy26]

this is the best NISSAN comadore australia ever made.

[Paiste402]

@Ansett76

The alloytec motor tho? thats just a GM platform engine same with the 6.2 litre v8's. Look, im just trying to say they arent 100% aussie no more. The falcon still uses an Aussie straight 6 only found here at least. Shame cause all the engines us aussies made and make are brilliant, its a dying breed

[Ansett76]

@Paiste402 I disgaree, the VE was the first Commodore compltetly designed in Australia...all others from VB onwards were designed by GM/Opel in Europe and originally sold as a Opel Rekord. Hell I was in the UK in 2006 and saw Vaushall Omega (yes hence the reference in the current Commodore Omega) which side on was exactly the same as a VY Commo. So it never really was an all Aussie car....sure we tweeked it here but it was designed elsewhere. Now us Aussies have designed the VE, Camaro, etc

[rotterdamSCF4life]

one of a kind VL is in league of its own rules the street or NSW like king.

[Paiste402]

@cerealsufle

dude i FULLY agree, and all the little poofters around with fucking chevy badges on all their commodores. Ive even seen them on V6 VR's! Holden gets no credit for the monaro and commodore around the world, its all pontiacs and vauxhalls iIts all fucked now days, thats why ive moved to ford to be honest. No one tried to badge it as something else and imo they are now a better australian car.

[cerealsufle]

@Paiste402 yes its said the path that Holden was taken down, if only it could have stayed Australian owned. it disgusts me to see holders with pontiac fronts and the americans calling our amazing monaros pontiac gtos. worst of all the money goes to the yanks aswell

[Paiste402]

@cerealsufle

sure they still make some good looking solid cars but they are no longer the Australian pioneers of cars making original machines, they are merely a GM dealer now days with even the commodore being vastly designed overseas and such. But thats just how the world is nowdays :(

[cerealsufle]

@Paiste402 actualy the 3.8 buick in the VN commodore had 15 more kilowatts (125 kw) than in the pontiac bonneville that used the same motor and 19 more kilowatts than in the buick riviera. unfortunately they now use the hfv6 and the l98 and the l76 8's. holdens may have died to some extent. but they still produce solid good looking vehicles

[Paiste402]

@cerealsufle

No way, its a buick motor merely built in australia. If anything the Holden variant made the buick worse, it put out less power and not as reliable as the US equivalent. Serious, holden died with the VL commodore then it opened the flood gates for the same idea. Along came the VT series 2 and then the aussie 5.0 V8 left as well ending any real Holden motors.