John Crowder Manipulation "Baiting"

John Crowder uses this young man as bait in this video. It saddens me to see our youth being used by this heretic to spew out his blasphemy. Crowder has no limits, he creates formulas to live by. If your not in his new wine heresy, your not in! Sounds much like "Religion" to me!

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[erockafella35]

i love how hardcore christians say this guys brainwashes youth and believes in ridiculous things when not only do normal christians brainwash kids ( and molest them) but also believe in a man who lives in the sky and created the world and everything in it in 6 days. yeah the guy smoking fake jesus is crazy, but you're completely normal

[vinnieActs2030]

@erockafella35  Right..... :-)

[cdzh]

One more thing, you admit that you are using a © vid without authorization (so you can ruin it with your obsessive ranting) yet accuse Crowder of using this poor young man's testimonial to promote himself. Don't you see the hypocrisy there? Crowder is no buffoon, and you'd know that if you'd read his books, which prove he's a student of church history, and only seeks real intimacy with God. The religious fear intimacy with God but love the rules, despite being unable to live by them.

[vinnieActs2030]

Ok Chris, I am a Pharisee, and yes I have a religious spirit and as a Pharisee, yes! I want to charge Crowder with a religious crime and yes I am a hypocrite and a buffoon that fears intimacy with God and yes I love the rules, despite being able to live by them. Thank God you and Crowder are not like me.

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. Luk 18:11

[cdzh]

I'm sure that you are a very fine person, and a committed believer. I doubt you have a religious spirit", as I don't know your mind and heart. I'm just saying you should not disqualify yourself because you dislike Crowder's way. Who are you/who am I to say what God will and won't do? David danced with all his might, , and before the Lord, and Michal despised him for it, and confronted him, and David said: I will be even more undignified than this. Michal cut short her spiritual future.

[vinnieActs2030]

If this is as far as we can get in understanding one another for now, I'll take it..... :-)

Blessings.... ;-) Till we chat again, The wisdom that is from above is much greater than the wisdom man exercises!

[Weallfart]

@vinnieActs2030 I wish you would contact AJ in this video and ask him yourself wether or not John is using him.. Aj is a dear friend of mine and you are WAY off base dude..

[MattLem922]

Why spend all your time 'exposing' 'false teachers'? Why not try promoting God's grace for a change?

[afterthekingdom]

haha, yea that poor deceived guy is named aj n... he actually works for john from a different city and leads a church group of his own. trust me he is very much still enjoying his freedom and freely preaches/participates what he's learned from john! yippie!

[audiotrax2000]

I'm posting this simply because I can't stand deceivers and liars taking advantage of others- especially impressionable young people. Let's out him :)

[audiotrax2000]

Bait? More like chicken. As a gay man, my overall impression in all the videos I've seen of him is that he's all about the sensuous. He's turned something spiritual into a come on with all his mannerisms and catch phrases. He's hot (I'll admit) and he flaunts it in the most obvious way to these guys, and then pretends it's not what it is. Let's be real. How many of these impressional young men is he taking advantage of off hours? People, it's the oldest story in the book. Think. I'm post

[Kriptych121636]

What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice. Philippians 1:18

Brothers, we know that God's word defends itself. We know that God Himself will deal with any false prophets. Now I haven't heard enough of Crowder's teachings to know for sure if he is or isn't. But I like Paul's angle.

[denoinwa]

@chelleybell4 Still another manifestation of religion is believing that fundamental, spiritual change comes from external influence such as sin management and law orientation rather than the transforming grace of God. It is always overbalanced in its focus on behavior rather than faith as the means of change. Religion orientation will always value doctrine over faith. It will always emphasis the DOING and rarely the BEING. It is an insidious spirit that always vales its motive in scripture.

[denoinwa]

@chelleybell4 A few manifestations of a religious spirit.: One is a general performance and condemnation orientation that they will rarely cop to, another is a general disposition to disdain the supernatural works of God, another is for valuing sorrow and seriousness at all times over joy and fun (insisting that God is always the former), another is to always focus on appearances rather than motive, and another is a dispostion for control over freedom.

[chelleybell4]

@denoinwa but I reject works as a means to salvation, whether to earn salvation or maintain salvation. God will get ALL the glory for my salvation, it won't be 50/50, or 75/100.

[denoinwa]

@chelleybell4 He wasnt saying you werent saved, because he doesnt do that. He is referring to a spirit of the law which is a performance orientation emphasizing works and not belief. The Galations were saved, but Paul said, "who has bewitched you?" So, I dont know what you were protesting or why, so I cannot comment on that. I will just say that many of the protestations coming from well intended people most definitley are pharasaical.

[chelleybell4]

@denoinwa John posted a vid of me protesting his meeting and accused me of being religious and not understanding grace. He tells his followers to love the religious. So I posted an inoffensive question; if i believe I am saved by grace, thru faith in Jesus and NOT works, how can i b called 'religious' pls explain ur allegation (after all, if i'm not understanding grace, i'm going to hell). John responded by ignoring me, deleting my question and blocking me. He continues to misrepresent me.