Va'al Kulom
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Actually, this is the Modzitz niggun, with excellent Chassidic pedigree
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@choral25 good point, and worthy of note that in germany (before the war) there was often crossover between the composers of chazzanut and of opera!
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@tenorblair Jason, I am joining this discussion 2 years too late. Don't let it get to you. You sing very well and I will gladly accept you to any of my JEWISH choirs. I will also gladly give you solos. Some people have very rigid ideas about what is right and what is wrong. It is their problem, not yous.
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@chenjen7 Why couldn't it be played in a schul? Maybe not in your schul but definitely in many others. I did it myself. Tradisional Chazanut is heavily influenced by 19th century opera. As a matter of fact, if you check cantorial anthologies, there are many tunes that were actually taken from operas and given lyrics from the prayers. Are you saying that any synagogue music before the 19th century did not sound Jewish? by definition it couldn't be influenced by 19th century opera.
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@Joyalis Would you please explain what makes it Christian and what do you mean by Yerushalmi or something? I am a choral conductor and born in Israel and speak perfect Hebrew but I totally do not understand what you mean.
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Its all very difficult to judge, after all, we as jews have so many different traditions, and come from so many different places, with music from so many different times, whos to say what is proper and appropriate. As a jew, and a singer, i love them all.
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Beautiful. By way of comparative liturgy: I am a Russian Orthodox Christian and since the 18th century we do have arrangements similar sounding to this. Some of our traditionalists really hated the idea of this kind of music in place of the older plainchant. I don't know the discourse in your tradition, but it seems we have the same kind of struggles. Wonderful video.
i sorry but this is Christian and if this thing is Jewish at least do it in a Jewish way like the Yerushalmi or something
Joyalis 4 years ago
sorry we havent all fitted into the pigeon hole you would like to create for us...
music is subjective, and once again let me reiterate, this is a jewish tune to a jewish song. take my word for it....!
If you don't want to take my word for it, then look up Rabbi Shaul of Modzitz. as he's the one who wrote it many years ago.
tenorblair 4 years ago