Opposing Missions: Jews for Judaism (Canada) on CBC Man Alive in 1997
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@Menechem If you want to know who the suffering servant is in Isaiah 50. Just look at Isaiah 49:3 "And he said to me, "You are My servant, Israel in whom I glory." G-d glories in Israel not in J. This because J and G-d don’t get along. For example, in Mark 7:19 J "declared all foods clean." Whereas G-d calls trayf an abomination. In 2 Corinthians 3:7 the NT calls Torah “the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones”. Whereas G-d calls the words of Torah” your very life” (Deut 32:47).
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@dvkuth Why is it that when I already touched on this, and used Targum Jonathan (which predates Rashi's views which you're trying to use), you refuse to comment on that? Not to mention even within Kabalah we read of Mashiach ben Yosef, and Mashiach ben David. Isaiah 50:10, from the JPS "Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of His servant?", thus are we the suffering servant, or is Mashiach? I refer you back to Targum Jonathan and have a further study?
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@Menechem Please take time in life to read Isaiah in context.
Isaiah 41:8, "But you, Israel, My servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, seed of Abraham my friend"
Isaiah 44:1 "But hear, now, O Jacob My servant, Israel whom I have chosen!"
Isaiah 44:21 "Remember these things, O Jacob for you, O Israel, are My servant"
Isaiah 49:3 "And he said to me, "You are My servant, Israel in whom I glory."
The suffering servant is Israel. Not your god. Who will you stand with in that day of judgement?
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@dvkuth MY GOD IS YUD-KAY-VAV-KAY, THE THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB. THE GOD IS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR YACHID BOX YOU PUT HIM IN, THE GOD WHO REIGNS AS A TRIUNITY (ECHAD), FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT, WHO IS OMNIPRESENT, OMNIPOTENT, AND OMNISCIENT. I'm not worshipping an Idol, rather I looked, by the grace of God, to Him, whom WE PIERCED, AND MOURNED FOR HIM, AS ONE MOURNS FOR THE FIRSTBORN. Messiah is God as we read in the Hebrew of Isa9 HaShem Called His name, Mighty God, Almighty God...
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@dvkuth Week argument regarding Matthew 24, as if He was not God He would not be able to command the angels! Christain denominations are many, HOWEVER TRUE CHRISTIANS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF THE GOSPEL. I'm a Pentecostal, however I fellowship with Baptists, and others and even worship with them and break bread, and do service work with them, and we are brothers and sisters in Christ, and look beyond the minor differences, and focus on what's important, REACHING THE WORLD WITH THE GOSPEL!
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@Menechem If you want to worship livestock, thats your business. Echad means one., that simple. If G-d were three He would have said so. If J were G-d he would know the day or the hour of judgment day (Math24:36). If J were G-d his prayer in John 17:11 for believers "that they may be one as we are one", would have happened. Instead, thousands of Xian denominations, wars, persecutions, etc Your god is not omniscient, not omnipotent. Wouldn’t you rather worship G-d alone than a worthless idol?
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@dvkuth furthermore in Talmud we read of a debate on whether the Holy One,Blessed is He,is a unity,or singular.To answeryou regarding to Matthew 24:36,if we read it in contexet,we see that He will appear in the sky,with power and glory,and the tribes of the earth will mourn for Him(which backs Zech.12:10in the untwist Hebrew,the translations of TaNaKhtwist it as it does not read what it does in the ArtScroll English).Thus God the Father issolely in control of this time,Yeshua's still God though.
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@dvkuth Torah teaches "וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹקים, נַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם בְּצַלְמֵנוּ" (parashat breyshit), and "שְׁמַע, יִשְׂרָאֵל: ה' אֱלֹקינוּ, ה' אֶחָד", not to mention that it was not until the Rambam that we believed H', blessed be He, was yachid, not echad, and the two word became synonymous with each other. In talmud we read that there was a debate between Messiah being eternal, or human. Further more Targum Jonathan to Isaiah 52 and 53 backs up that Messiah is spoken of here. He is the Lamb of God!
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@Menechem Judaism teaches one G-d with none beside Him (Isaiah 45:21). You worship “he who sits at the right hand of G-d”. A man that doesn’t even know the day or the hour of judgment day (Matthew 24:36). Your worship of “the lamb” is worse than worshiping the golden calf. You should know better than worship livestock. If you are for real I feel sorry for you. The Xians have done more evil to the Jews than any other faith, and you will stand with our killers in the day of judgement.
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@Tzedaqyal Jeremiah 31 teaches that HaShem will establish a New Covenant, a Brit Chadashah with us. Before you label me a Messianic Jew, I am not, I think Messianic Judaism is an oxy moron in light of what Scripture teaches, however I am Jewish, and I did come out of a frum lifestyle, and have done extensive study on this subject, and fought hard about coming to to the truth, ebut I could not wrestle with HaShem any more and I gave my heart to Him,& trusted our Messiah.Look above for my points.
Avodah Zarah is Avodah Zarah..no matter how you dress it up..
rollinglibs1012 7 months ago 11
Shalom to the Jews that come back to Judaism!
straygypsy 7 months ago 10