The use of guns is not the problem. The lack of consciousness and IQ is. That is the very reason why there is a state. If we all had an IQ over 150 and Buddhist intention then there would be no need for Stefan Molyneux's stories at all. Fact is, state society found a solutions for life threats.
So basically Molyneux says that the use of violence is harmfull, but doesn't have practical solutions how to live with people who don't have a clue about the value of the none initiation of force.
No you are not beyond "isms".. no matter how many times you repeat that to yourself and others! I pointed out that what you are trying is "scientific" socialism or "scientific" collectivism if you want to be accurate. Of course you are not as blatantly stupid to believe they can create matter..which is good news. For your own sake, please do not put any of your own money into this.. you will loose it all. Other than that, your commune fails.
@utubehayter I did not mean "to make gold". I meant to replace either the resource with something else, or the project using resources into something else that used other resources. You can keep trying to make a fool of me, but it´s only yourself you´re fooling. What I speak of is beyond isms and the current belief system and indoctrination, and if you don´t understand it, it doesn´t matter. Evolution will happen regardless.
I think this has gone on long enough. You want me to believe this VP has any science behind it... send me a 1 kilogram of gold - I don't care how they make it, as long as it is gold. It will be proof enough that the claims your are making have any science behind it.
How do you know that price mechanism has guided society to its maximum extent? Do you really believe that computers are capable of telling the future? Or do you believe computers care if human beings live or die? It seems to me that your faith in computers is so naive as to imagine the "computer" as some sort of Oracle .. which it is not, has never been and probably will never be. Just throwing "computers" at fundamental economic problems does not solve them.
You still do not get the point of these issues. I guess, I will have to let you either read human action, and then do some scientific research.. say to provide synthetically produced gold or even copper. Hey, if they can do that, why would they be collecting donations? Couldn't they just sell synthetic gold? After all if the theory is rock solid, then they ought to deliver
The easiest cure for people who think socialism can work - this way or that - is to let them try it.
@utubehayter The knowledge problem is simply put, the problem of knowing what and how resources should be used and generated/extracted. Hayek argued that the price mechanism would itself guide society to knowledge and prosperity. And it has, to its´ maximum extent, but now is obsolete. It no longer works. A central computersystem that monitors these things will serve as a solution to this problem also. It seems technology is the emancipation of human kind.
@utubehayter The calculation problem is simply put, the problem of how to distribute resources rationally in an economy. VP advocates a centralized computersystem that monitors and distributes resources to where they are needed through a highly efficient and automated distributing system. Resources that depletes will be replaced by synthetical, or the resource usage problem will be addressed. Mises problem of calculation can be solved through this.
I know how the future will look if violence is no longer used to solve problems. Better.
PluralOfEverything 2 months ago
The use of guns is not the problem. The lack of consciousness and IQ is. That is the very reason why there is a state. If we all had an IQ over 150 and Buddhist intention then there would be no need for Stefan Molyneux's stories at all. Fact is, state society found a solutions for life threats.
So basically Molyneux says that the use of violence is harmfull, but doesn't have practical solutions how to live with people who don't have a clue about the value of the none initiation of force.
TerrierBram 7 months ago
@BaldersHymn
No you are not beyond "isms".. no matter how many times you repeat that to yourself and others! I pointed out that what you are trying is "scientific" socialism or "scientific" collectivism if you want to be accurate. Of course you are not as blatantly stupid to believe they can create matter..which is good news. For your own sake, please do not put any of your own money into this.. you will loose it all. Other than that, your commune fails.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@utubehayter I did not mean "to make gold". I meant to replace either the resource with something else, or the project using resources into something else that used other resources. You can keep trying to make a fool of me, but it´s only yourself you´re fooling. What I speak of is beyond isms and the current belief system and indoctrination, and if you don´t understand it, it doesn´t matter. Evolution will happen regardless.
BaldersHymn 1 year ago
@BaldersHymn
I think this has gone on long enough. You want me to believe this VP has any science behind it... send me a 1 kilogram of gold - I don't care how they make it, as long as it is gold. It will be proof enough that the claims your are making have any science behind it.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@BaldersHymn
How do you know that price mechanism has guided society to its maximum extent? Do you really believe that computers are capable of telling the future? Or do you believe computers care if human beings live or die? It seems to me that your faith in computers is so naive as to imagine the "computer" as some sort of Oracle .. which it is not, has never been and probably will never be. Just throwing "computers" at fundamental economic problems does not solve them.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@BaldersHymn
You still do not get the point of these issues. I guess, I will have to let you either read human action, and then do some scientific research.. say to provide synthetically produced gold or even copper. Hey, if they can do that, why would they be collecting donations? Couldn't they just sell synthetic gold? After all if the theory is rock solid, then they ought to deliver
The easiest cure for people who think socialism can work - this way or that - is to let them try it.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@utubehayter The knowledge problem is simply put, the problem of knowing what and how resources should be used and generated/extracted. Hayek argued that the price mechanism would itself guide society to knowledge and prosperity. And it has, to its´ maximum extent, but now is obsolete. It no longer works. A central computersystem that monitors these things will serve as a solution to this problem also. It seems technology is the emancipation of human kind.
BaldersHymn 1 year ago
@utubehayter The calculation problem is simply put, the problem of how to distribute resources rationally in an economy. VP advocates a centralized computersystem that monitors and distributes resources to where they are needed through a highly efficient and automated distributing system. Resources that depletes will be replaced by synthetical, or the resource usage problem will be addressed. Mises problem of calculation can be solved through this.
BaldersHymn 1 year ago
@utubehayter Ok. If you insist so strongly, I will do my very best to understand these problems. Write you later. ;)
BaldersHymn 1 year ago