Reaction to Healthcare Passage

For NRO's The Corner, Rep. Jordan reflects on the narrow passage of the Democrat Healthcare Bill - and signs a pledge to sponsor and support legislation to repeal any federal healthcare takeover passed in 2010 and replace it with real reforms that lower healthcare costs without growing government.

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[aeuiono]

@kamanu47 You don't take pride in being a useful idiot? What if Lenin or Stalin bestowed a "Democratic Socialist Order of Useful Idiots" upon you? That's like being knighted, you don't turn that down, lest you be purged.

I don't call you a useful idiot for disagreeing with me, I call you one with the deepest respect for your political religion.

Oh, and smooth passive-aggression there, sidestepping points you can't answer, particularly points that show you're either a liar or ignorant.

[aeuiono]

@Desarollo

Now you claim you're a libertarian? That's rich! Just a few comments before you were saying that socialist health insurance systems are a good thing.

So you're a libertarian who's open to the idea of socialism? What's next, an obese marathon runner?

How do you reconcile your supposed libertarian principles with statements legitimizing socialism, or saying that there's no benefit in having private companies ration care instead of government bureaucracy?

You can't, you liar.

[Desarollo]

oh come on man. continue your little one sided crusade. i heard the EXACT SAME WORD FOR WORD arguments from the left during Bush's reign. it's idiocy.

I actually take your citation of CBO projections, although I haven't verified them yet, to actually be a SIGNIFICANT and relevant piece of information.

But comparing the US to Cuba, etc, or your painting someone with wide brushes like Amy Bishop, WHAT?... that shit is just moronic.

What hate-filled leftist?!? I'm libertarian, moron.

[kamanu47]

@aeuiono I did not mind the respectful discourse (has been up to now), but when you start down the road of name calling because I don't agree with you position then I can no longer continue the conversation. It is obvious you have run out of ideas and thoughts and re-hasihg the same rhetoric only now with slander (idiot reference). It is obvious that your parents did not teach any manners.

[aeuiono]

@kamanu47 You wrote, "when bills are signed into law, they become constitutional."

This is patently false.

You represent the dumbing-down of the American voter. This is why you're a left-winger and you support the takeover of the insurance industry.

Heck, the fact that you call it "health care" reform also smacks of ignorance. Care isn't insurance, useful idiot.

[kamanu47]

@aeuiono sorry, they they did not change the rules. If you recall both houses had already passed their respective bills by a 2/3rd majority. The congressional Parliamentarian allowed for reconciliation rule to deal with the fixes to the Senate bill which under rules allowed for budgetary fixes (CBO recommended) and did not affect Social Security. If you had watched the debate, GOP members did not argue process rather they challenged substance. It was all w/in the rules.

[aeuiono]

@Desarollo Of course you want to silence dissent.

We have more in common with western hemisphere nations, as we were colonized, don't have a landed gentry, and don't have a monarchic history. When it comes to Germany, they're what, 20 years old?

You don't want to address the figures and facts about the CBO projections.

You, Amy Bishop, Bruce Ivins, Joe Stack, John Bedell, Norman Leboon, and your ilk think the exact same way. Moronic hate-filled leftists at the altar of totalitarianism.

[kamanu47]

@aeuiono I will continue to vote... and yes the law is constitutional, I am informed enough to know that much. I may not be familiar with every High Court case, so until the court rules otherwise, Health Care reform is the law, however aspects of it will be phased in over time. I would suggest if you want it challenged, start your court proceedings now, it may take some time but you have that as a constitutional right.

[aeuiono]

@kamanu47 The Democrats used the nuclear option for the reconciliation process.

Yes, they are two separate things, but the Democrats didn't use just reconciliation, as pure reconciliation can only be used on budget bills. The Dems used the nuclear option to reinterpret the reconciliation rule, and even violated the Byrd rule. Insurance reform didn't pass the House with a 2/3 majority.

Signing a bill into law doesn't make it constitutional. If you don't understand that, don't vote anymore.

[aeuiono]

@kamanu47 I suggest you stop voting until you educate yourself better.

Just because a law is passed and signed doesn't make it constitutional. You've probably never heard of US v. Butler, in which the SCOTUS ruled that the Agricultural Adjustment Act violated the Tenth Amendment for invading the rights of the states and going beyond the enumerated powers, but this case will be relevant when the Court rules insurance reform unconstitutional as well.