Common Objections to #OWS

This segment was recorded during the 10-29-2011 edition of Quiero Que Sepas, hosted by Henry Sanchez. Quiero Que Sepas airs every Saturday from 10 - noon on Public Reality Radio (WPRR, Grand Rapids, Mich.), 95.3 FM / 1680 AM. Visit Quiero Que Sepas at http://quieroquesepas.us and Public Reality Radio at http://publicrealityradio.org.

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[jmctigret]

Simple tea party ideals for both parties.

(1) Eliminate the National Debt

(2) Eliminate Deficit Spending (balance budget)

(3) Protect Free Markets (no Crony capitalism )

(4) Reduce the Overall Size of Government

[paleocrat]

@jmctigret I'm neither a strict constitutionalist nor an opponent of any and all government programs. I'm also not of the persuasion that any and all government debt is bad debt or that there is never a legitimate reason for the government to engage in deficit spending. But this is a far cry from being happy about the kind of debt and amount of debt we have. FTR - I do not despise the Tea Party or all of its positions. I share many concerns and frustrations, as do many with #OWS.

[ChristianLayman]

I don't know, I haven't really read too many articles about OWS, so if I were prudent, I'd keep mouth shut, but from what I have seen, it sounds like a bunch of Left-wing partisans coupled with those who generally lean leftwards, (not to mention that there ARE Marxists elements participating) protesting out of envy (well, I assume those would be the Marxists). I typically find myself more prone to supporting the TEA Party movement despite not having been involved since I moved south.

[paleocrat]

@ChristianLayman I think it safe to admit that there are Marxist amongst the thousands of protesters. This doesn't both me much, not any more than it does that people associated with kinism, culturism, racialism and even racial supremacy may be found among a number of those involved with the Tea Party. They are only significant in so far as they are influencing the movement. The same may be said of any movement. It is, though, a reason to be observant, even vigilant.

[phil8888]

What is your comment on the sad and unfortunate rapes and death (not sure if it's more than one), at Occupy movements.

[AdversusHaereses]

@steam0001 I agree with you 100%. That still does not go on to say much about the idea that free market capitalism also allows failure of small business through allowing the monopolies of big business. The robber barons had their monopolies in their own industries in the 19th century because there was no government regulations in sectors which are naturally prone to be monopolised if freely given to the market gurus. The political power of these men was far greater than any communist bureaucrat.

[MarcinP2]

The way the occupiers have distanced themselves from political left and the way that in turn the media distanced themselves from the occupiers is what made me believe they are not pawns of the liberals.

I am glad the popular left finally realized media corporations are corporations just the same and I hope they will stop blaming it all on just Fox News and see bigger picture.

The Oakland PD has caused many US citizens to question law enforcement's motives and methods.

[steam0001]

@AdversusHaereses Look true capitalism allows failure. It is the means of getting rid of that which doesn't work. If the rich guy/gal on wall street wants to take stupid risks then let him/her become become homeless to serve as an example to others. Don't give them a bail out.

[paleocrat]

@steam0001 I deny the causal connection here. In fact, I deal with this, just briefly, in the video. What was said of museums, hospitals and art galleries may, in principle and in fact, be said of those things you reference here. It suffers from not being well-defined, at least as an argument. There are a myriad of other variables at play here. I don't think "X, therefore Y" works here.