Outraged

How I feel after the passage of the people's referendum to repeal the Equal Marriage Law in Maine, November 4 2009.

Category:

People & Blogs

Tags:

• Equal Marriage
• equal rights
• gay rights
• No on One in Maine

[XaveJamesGrey]

Any vote to disenfranchise fellow equal citizens is illegitimate!

[tzushih]

Yes, provided gay people don't ever need to take advantage of the legal status of civil marriage to operate in society. Oh, I'm so sorry you missed your wife's dying words because the hospital was legally required to bar you from her bedside.

No one's harming gays? What a laugh.

[bstunna06]

You have the same right as everyone else to married someone of the the opposite sex. That is the Same right as everyone else isn't it? Because asking to married some of the same sex is actually asking for an unequal right.

[tzushih]

OK, so you've changed the subject AGAIN. I take it you don't actually have a counterargument, then?

Let the record stand that my assertion (a restriction on marriage can apply to everyone equally and still clearly be discriminatory and unconstitutional) has gone unchallenged.

[JavierCA2008]

Why do you insist on tying everything to black people? How about you let the gay lifestyle stand up on its own two feet? That's because it has never been proven that people are born gay. That's why we have waackos saying they are gay, bi, straight, then gay again week after week.

[tzushih]

Why do same-sex marriage foes insist on resorting to ad hominem attacks?

You said the current law applies to everyone equally. I pointed out that earlier "anti-miscegenation" laws also applied to everyone equally, and yet were clearly discriminatory. Do you have a counterargument which is actually relevant and does not involve fantasies that everyone who disagrees with you is amoral?

[tzushih]

What I'm saying is that had it been up to a simple majority vote, Mildred and Richard Loving's arrest would have been upheld and their family broken apart or forced into another state.

It took a Supreme Court ruling to strike down these laws and affirm that marriage, as a legal institution, is subject to the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that these fundamental freedoms can't be curtailed at the mere whim of a legislature or a popular vote.

[tzushih]

No, that's simply incorrect. Polls at the time showed popular support for "anti-miscegenation" laws. The Supreme Court struck down these laws in their ruling in Loving v. Virginia, because they were in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment. In time, the popular furor died down, and interracial marriage became a nonissue.

Incidentally, before she died last year, Mildred Loving voiced her hope that same-sex couples would gain legal marriage, bless her heart.

[JavierCA2008]

Why do gays insist on tying everything to the blacks?

When a black baby or girl is born, we know it is black or a girl. "Gays" choose to engage in their perversion.

Also the blacks and women overwhelmingly believe in God unlike "gays" who do not care about morals.

[tzushih]

And when the law said everyone could marry so long as it was to someone of their own race, was that fair and impartial?

[JavierCA2008]

The law does treat everyone impartially. You are allowed to marry it would just have to be with someone of the opposite sex. You can choose to do this or not. That is because marriage is man + woman. Everyone can drive just have to stay on the right side of the road.