The Lost Way of the Shaman in America

Learn more at http://www.collectiveeye.org. A Hmong Shaman, Paja Thao, performs a healing ceremony where he shakes to find and catch the soul of his sick cousin so that he may have more children. Excerpted from The Split Horn, an anthropological documentary about a Hmong Shaman in America.

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Education

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• evil
• spirits
• conception
• infertility
• depression
• sick
• healing
• ceremony
• shaman
• ritual
• Hmong
• virile
• anthropology
• documentar

[blackwingking1000]

WTF!!! Do you get pay to explain..what is going on..little idiot..fucking faggot.

[MrMrpomzemzuag]

Sherman is real and God is also real believe what you believe. Im pretty sure we will find out at the end.

[CNX625]

i lost my copy of this movie some time ago

[CNX625]

@chaomeinthao IKR, we don't need that much kids anymore, like as if were gonna use it on farms or somethin

[chaomeinthao]

more kid he hell old..

[blueberrysmilie1]

Everyone here in America has the rights to practice or preserve their religion. Every religion here came from else where.  Actually Natives here use to practice shamamism before all other religions showed up in america... :)

[xwaystranger]

@Stillfaith209 Exactly. We are not headed to war, only different opinions. My "seeing" is that the Shamanic Lineages are responsible for channeling the "Unknown". Shamans are separate from the Common People through a Lineage that is activated at conception, and a shaman cannot be enlisted like a priest or rabbi through dogma training. They are not part of a church or temple. They are fluid in order to get the True Information for Mankind. And the truth is that We Are Not All One Collective.

[Stillfaith209]

@Stillfaith209 Cont'd-Let me add that I am a very critical, practical follower of Christ. Although I may not agree with the Shaman faith, I am not going to belittle or devalue those who follow it. I am not a raging, ranting Christian who wants to proselytize the world. I am a thoughtful, considerate human being who wants to first heal the schism made by careless words and acts & then if people choose to follow my belief, then I am more than happy to help. Without "love," Jesus & I are nothing.

[Stillfaith209]

@xwaystranger It seems we are fast headed into a war of words. As cliche and rediculous as this following statement sounds, it is very true: "On the seventh day, [while God was resting] mankind created religoins." If any person allow any belief system or "Fatih" to seperate that person from the human family, he/she is quite lost. Netier Shamanism nor Christianity has the right to alienate, dehumanize, and/or demonize others. A simple "we agree to disagree" will suffice the "Faith" question.

[xwaystranger]

@Stillfaith209 That's a nice PC position. But if you are a Shaman, you are not subject to the Fashionable Statements of "we are all one". You should know that "we are NOT all one". By doing the same rituals from your old world in the new world landscape, you are contributing to "duality and separation". You also want your "customs" to continue in America after you die. That Imposes on the spirit and people of American soil. As a shaman you should know that this is a Predator Universe.

[Stillfaith209]

Let me clarify my point. "Because you are human, I will 'fight' to ensure that you continue to live, to think, and to believe in whatever you want." That is what I want to preserve: "Your Humanity." I have my personal religous beliefs but I am not going to impose it on anyone else except myself and I am not on a crusade to change anyone's mind. As Hmong people, we have to rise above even our relgious differences or else the lofty goal of "unity" and "solidarity" is but a thought.

[xwaystranger]

@Stillfaith209 What you are "fighting" to preserve is all in your "Mind". A real shaman gets there information directly from the "Soil" they are walking on at the Time. If you walk on American Soil and are really a Shaman you will "See" that there is nothing Hmong on this Landscape. Your colorful "outfits" and Asia Soil Rituals are not from this Land. They are Dogma from another part of the World. So is the Bible (middle East landscape). Get Aware by getting Spirit from the land you Walk on

[Stillfaith209]

My mother's side of the family are half Shaman and half Christians. My father's side of the family are all Christian. Somehow, I feel this is the common experience among second generation Hmong Americans. We, as individuals, choose the Faiths/Religions/Spiritualitie­­s that allign closes to our personal beliefs. Whether you are Shaman or Christian does not matter, but what does matter is that you are a living, thinking, and feeling human being just like me and I will fight to preserve that.

[xwaystranger]

"If he is AFRAID that Hmong Shamanism is in danger of extinction in America", its because he is in the NEW WORLD. Leave your old world stuff in your homeland, or go back there. America is fast becoming the old world you left, because it Sucked. Be an American Shaman, if you are Walking on American Soil. To do otherwise, means you are not really a Shaman.

[Aphablueforce]

@niamtxiv

Clearly you think God is an acessory when you want to use it, used. And when don't want to use it, you put away. And when you're in your crises situation you pray you what ever God you can think of. I might not be speaking seven different tougue. And I might not kow the whole enttire Gospel. But I know God is real. The Most High God is the one I believe in and his Only Son Jesus is my savior.

[niamtxiv]

@Aphablueforce

You are clearly delusional. No one is denying God. Why can't you just shove it up your stupid retarded ignorant bigoted anal? People like you deserve to get punch in the face. Clearly, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, you little piece of shit. Who is your God? Jesus Christ or God? According to the old testament, you are believing in a false god. Do you speak Aramaic? the language of Jesus Christ? Oh wait, you're a damn stupid Hmong from southeast Asia. lol

[Aphablueforce]

@niamtxiv

Stop denying God.

[niamtxiv]

@Aphablueforce

Get an education.

[Aphablueforce]

@niamtxiv

Repent!!

[niamtxiv]

@Aphablueforce

Go to college. 

[Aphablueforce]

@niamtxiv

Who talking to you?

[niamtxiv]

@Aphablueforce

four words, "shut the fuck up."

[Aphablueforce]

@dededoi

I'm not saying eventually everyone will convert. If everyone can enter into the kingdom of heaven then, thank God. I really hope everyone could find Jesus. In fact if you knew the word Christian Origin, you might think differently. Christian and religion is in 2 different category. For if God is real then how can he be a religion? Everyone know God exist, they can't denied themselved. Yet they don't bother to search the truth. If you;re that person then, you really can't say anything

[dededoi]

@Aphablueforce r u trying to say that eventually everyone is gonna convert, ah no thanks, every religon has their ups and downs but i really don;t get ur statement correct me if i miswunderstood

[retuber123]

straight up jingle belling dat shit...hell yea SHAMAN PRIDE