Science and Religion: Part 2

We continue our discussion of Orthodox Christianity and modern science

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[anyuta64]

actually, I belive the bishop IS a scientist (a physicist) by training.

[grandconjunct]

No one is saying Genesis is a geological textbook, that is a misrepresentation of us who simply want the bible to speak for itself , the bible contains metaphor, analogies, parables and some times literal history. calling a christian a "100% literalist" just because they can see Genesis contains the correct scientific order and events of that geology reveals, just so mare can insist Gen. is allegory so they can wedd Genesis to currect atheistic biology is the ridiculous position not us.

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief an idolatrous object as you do. There are very real errors in Scripture, and they are there for all to see. If you are so idolatrous that you wish to place the observations of various men on the level with the Divine, then we leave you to your delusions and fantasies.

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief Orthodoxy IS Christianity. The pitiful spectacle of the more than 1000 split, divided and mutually contradictory Protestant sects could hardly be classed as anything but a continuously splitting, dividing and philosophically warring group of Gnostic sects. People who have turned thier multitude of contradictory interpretations of Scripture into ideologies are hardly Christians, but that is Protestantism as it really is. Of course we hold the Scripture, but we do not turn the book into

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief Orthodox Christans live in a world of Truth --- the truth of Christ Jesus, and we do not need your Gnostic misunderstandings of Scripture, nor you weak props for your own uncertain faith, in order to maintain our Faith. Orthodoxy is comfortable with truth and reality because Orthodoxy is a True and living faith, unlike the neo-Gnosticism of Protestantism

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief You can hold your fantasies if you like, but it is clear to anyone with a braincell working that not everything in the Old Testament is true. It is certain that Niniveh never accepted the God of Israel and certainly did not repent "in sackcloth and ashes." The history of Nineveh is very well known, and that just never happened. And, the earth is about 4.5 Billion years old. If you need to have falsehoods in order to prop up what passes for faith with you, then keep you delusions, but

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief Either God wrote every word of Scriptrue, OR He created the universe, but not both. You see, God knows that the sun does not rise, it does not set, and you would not make a day longer by causing the sun to stand still, because the sun is not moving. You force people into atheism with your fantasy, and present God as being ignorant with your Bibliolatry. You have turned the Bible into a form of sheer idolatry, an it is the book you worship and not the living God.

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief the real issue is the creation of man, his relations with God and his present condition and need for a Saviour? The truth is that you do not have faith and do not sincerely believe, because if you had real faith, truth would not cause you to doubt your faith as you so obviously do. Like it or not, the earth is +-4billion years old, and dinosaurs were long extinct before humand were created. If you cannot live with truth, you will never come to have a genuine faith in God and in Christ.

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachiefThe creation narriative is about the meaning and condition of man and his relation with God, not about the creation of the universe. What good would it have been for the priestly author of the book to recite the Periodic Table of the Elements? Or to discuss deuterium or cosmic microwave anistotropy? All that is part and parcel of the coming into being of the Universe, but why would the author of the Scripture want to tell anyone, let alone a primative desert tribe, about all that, when

[allsaintsmonastery]

@vachief If you have to believe a lie in order to call yourself a Christian, then you are either psychotic or a living liar. I suspect a psychosis is the most feasible explanation for those of you who think that believing a lie is the only way to be a Christian.

[wattersm]

Bless Master,

Your words are very wise and enlightening.

[allymetoo]

Very interesting, thanks. Kind of matches up my own View of it.

But there is probably much more hidden inside the symbology of this Book.

The forbidden Tree of Knowledge I believe also represents the origins of the ancient Babylonian Mystery Religion and the Kaballa.