Can't we all just get along?

Richard Dawkins' "Nice Guys Finish First"
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6rgWzYRXiI
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-PbzWBJMyY
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIOF9PbdTLY
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajbw4ilXbBU
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kphEhr2fRhw
I couldn't find the relevent text from Hans Moravec's "Mind Children" online, but here is a useful resource about the book with many useful links:
http://www.librarything.com/work/183149
Excerpt from the above:

Moravec builds up a convincing picture and along the way the reader gets to look at the 1972 ARPAnet breakdown caused by a spontaneous error (mutation) in a piece of data that went on to infect the whole network. Or alternatively the direction that the evolution of duplicating speciating data objects might take. He expects digital wildlife to reproduce sexually as this is the optimum way to provide the variety needed to fill the niches in their new world.

He plays a robotic version of Axelrod's prisoners dilemma and concludes that the "tit for tat" result applies (i.e. robots would find it in their interests to cooperate between themselves-but not necessarily with us).

Essentially the book follows Dawkins idea of human evolution having switched from genes to memes (stored knowledge evolution or evolution in the library) and takes it to its logical conclusion when knowledge abandons its human hosts.

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[Robikus]

your posted link is no longer valid. Anywhere else to find that video?

[MetaBob]

I just updated the links in the sidebar.

[zkwaerwaivbace]

great vid.

tit for tat with occasional forgiveness (to break retaliatory cycles) is the current iterative-PD champ, i think.

although recently, a team 'won' by submitting a group of bots who recognized each others' secret handshakes and then cooperated within a pre-defined hierarchy. so the 'leader-bot' came out on top overall, but that seems like cheating, if you ask me.

i have no idea if they were trying to make some kind of point.

[MetaBob]

You scooped me here. I just read about the new forgiveness version in David Sloan Wilson's "Evolution for Everyone." I plan to vlog about it, though usually it takes months for me to get to things.

[zkwaerwaivbace]

aw crap, sorry about that. look forward to the follow-up.

cheers

[MetaBob]

That's okay, I'm not the only one allowed to know these things. ; )

[Broatch6]

yeah bob. you no it. you no the street. you no the guys you dont want to mess with. you no the guys you dont want to CHEAT.not ever. not unless you wanna be cut to the chase

uncontrolled aggresssion. the vicious and the greedy. survival of the toughest. survival of the fittest. its WISE guys bob NOT nice guys. tell yur mate richard

another thing. why not just be sucksink. just say DONT cheat wise guys. dont even fucking think about it

[Robikus]

Just finished 'Nice Guys Finish First' and now am wondering why all the A**holes on wallstreet aren't sat down and forced to watch it. Could do us all a lot of good. Let's make our leaders watch it too.

[Robikus]

Thanks dude, you rock!

[TheInfinityLab]

Yes, less avatars are possible on YouTube.

Unless you wear a mask...

The links on Youtube are smarter too!

More like Nelson envisioned.

[TheStoicAgnostic]

haha

these kind of youtube channels

are great

you can drop your opinion even if your opinion is that people have too many opinions

[TheStoicAgnostic]

humans represent chaos very well it's very cool they'll always argue it's one of the few things i'm almost sure of i fucking hate cheating i come across as a dumbass so i've been questioned about it just for doing well my professor's don't understand they are unnecessary to me (library is better) i don't care about grades but i invested enough i need that proof(diploma)