State of the Statists

Notice how the Neo-Cons have updated their language to sound more Libertarian, while perpetuating fallacious statist justifications for government. Paul Ryan says "Individual Liberty requires limited-government". Yet the Federal Government under direction of both Democrats and Republicans has systematically eroded individual liberty since its inception. America began with the smallest, most limited government in the history of nation-states, and it has become the largest, most powerful and corrupt empire in the world. Individual liberty requires self government, and totally undermines the state's power monopoly.

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[furyofbongos]

"We need universal but limited robbery so that we can protect ourselves from a tiny minority of people who may rob us."

[repfreedomforce]

@furyofbongos I like the way that is worded. Are you quoting someone?

[Antithropocentric]

"Limited government" tends to be a code-word for fewer limits on industrial pollution and personal gluttony. Same old story since Reagan kick-started that ideology in a big way.

[repfreedomforce]

@Antithropocentric So then the reverse must be true, that "Big Government" ensures limitations on industrial pollution and over-consumption, correct? How is that working out for you? Governments are the largest polluters in the world. They tend mostly to regulate those industries that compete with the corporations that fund their political campaigns, thereby ensuring monopolies. "Limited Government" may be an oxymoron, but that's no excuse to support the status quo.

[MillionthUsername]

As a Catholic, let me just say that I object to Stefan's obsessive fetish of church bashing. Every time I catch a video of this guy, he sneaks in some anti-Christian remark somewhere. I found it very offensive to show a picture of Catholic altar boys as he says, "it (the state) relies on the control and abuse of children...[picture]...the parallels are obvious and endless."

That is nothing but pure bigotry. Why the hell is anti-Catholic, anti-Christian bigotry presented in a libertarian vid?

[repfreedomforce]

@MillionthUsername I personally find Leo Tolstoy's "Christian Anarchism" as highly relevant to your discussion, and a nice synthesis between the Stefan's "good stuff" about the non-aggression principle, and a genuine Christian faith, not an institutionalized religious structure. By the way, the book I'm referring too is called "The Kingdom of God is Within You".

[RationalDischarge]

every time I watch Paul Ryan, he reminds me of a parent or caregiver who adopts a patronizingly doe-eyed, sympathetic expression when explaining something difficult or upsetting to a child or a developmentally impaired adult. It's very off-putting.

[repfreedomforce]

@MillionthUsername I understand where you are coming from. It is not my intention with this or any of our videos to criticize Chistianity. Nevertheless, some agents of institutional religion do parallel the state by abusing children. Christ said, "as you have done unto the least of these, my brethren, you have also done unto me" & "It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin." See?

[furyofbongos]

@repfreedomforce - my words, thanks! I will credit Larken Rose, however, with being an influence, especially this vid of his: /watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE

[jeffiek]

@MillionthUsername Hmmm.....

wikipedia. org/wiki/Bigotry

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices,

Let's see if I've got this right. A person hanging on to their opinions, despite lack of evidence, opinions so ridiculous they defy explanation, is calling Stefan a bigot.

Pot, meet kettle.

[netgrab]

if he wanted to secure the borders, he would be interested in a new 9/11 investigation. if everyone exposed who really is responsible for the melting of 1,400 cars in Manhattan (kinda far from the twin towers) is not a few guys in caves, the real terrorists in the middle east would not care about hurting the average American. if we left the middle east all together, they have so much to do, they might forget all about us. 9/11 was an inside job. average people did not do this.

[magentawave]

@Antithropocentric - Wrong. Despite his Libertarian rhetoric, Ronald Reagan was a big government neocon.

[magentawave]

Yay! Go Stefan!