J.S. Bach - BWV 610 - Jesus, meine Freude

Choralvorspiel „Jesus, meine Freude
c-moll BWV 610
Aus dem „Orgelbüchlein (BWV 599-644)

Chorale prelude Jesus, my true pleasure
C minor BWV 610
from the Little Organ Book (BWV 599-644)

composed by J.S. Bach (1685-1750)
performed by Wolfgang Zerer, organ

Bach - BWV 599-644 - Little Organ Book
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4532C343606BE0C8

Bach - BWV 645-650 - Schübler Chorales
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6B588CECF816A9B6

Bach - BWV 651-668 - Leipzig Chorales
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2C2EB2EC7B65F072

Bach - BWV 669-689 - Clavier-Übung 3.Teil
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=271234B965C91002

Bach - BWV 690-713 - Kirnberger Chorales
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0236250D17FBBE78

Bach - various chorale preludes BWV 714-
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D20EA45A2B7879FE

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[QNWNENRNTNY]

This wonderful piece of Bach's organ works is entitled "Jesus, meine Freude"/ "Jesus, my joy". When I listen to it, I rather get the impression of "Jesus, my sorrow". Largo is the tempo, yes, but does that mean grievous, too?

[toxiconegro]

I know what you mean. You're right it is "largo" and has a grievous tone. The point is that you don't have to translate it with "joy" but "Freude" in this case means "pleasure", "intimacy", "passion". This chorale prelude belongs to the christmas songs and that doesn't have anything in common what you meant with "joy".

Listen to BWV 615 in this one "Freude" has a different notion.

Thanks for being critically and for commenting

[PerfekteWagnerianer]

This is a choral that is called "der Passionzeit": that means this is a choral to play before easter, during the time of Passion. Is not a christmas song; In dir ist Freude is a christmas choral.

[dolofonos]

@QNWNENRNTNY No tempo could give that joy to this.

[zamyrabyrd]

What a wonderful channel with the music to follow as well. (Some of the scores are a tone lower but that doesn't really make any difference.)

[wcbroccoli]

@LocusIoannis If you actually have a degree in any of those fields (which I doubt), it hasn't helped you grasp this piece. A chorale prelude is not an exegesis of a chorale. The composer chooses which aspect(s) of the text he depicts. In this setting he uses a sigh motif, grating dissonances & largo tempo to express not joy (obviously), but anguish & longing in the words "Ach wie lang, ach lange Ist dem Herzen bange und verlangt nach dir!"

Sorry you can't you grasp this.

Be gone.

[wcbroccoli]

@LocusIoannis You may need a translation, but I don't.

I understand German.

[wcbroccoli]

@LocusIoannis Your lengthy and well-reasoned explanation of all 6 verses naively assumes a chorale prelude must be a theological summary of the entire hymn. It isn't.

The composer chooses which aspects of the text he depicts. In this case. he used sigh motifs and largo to depict the anguish & longing expressed by the words "Ach wie lang, ach lange Ist dem Herzen bange und verlangt nach dir!"

I'm very sorry you cannot grasp this.

[LocusIoannis]

@wcbroccoli You're hopeless. Re-read what I said. You're ignoring the parts where I showed how joy is shown in words OTHER THAN "meine Freude." But you're a troll. Fuck off. Let me know when you have a degree in music, theology, or hell, even English. Then maybe a mature discussion can be had. I can't teach you how to read too. The information's all there. Stop being lazy and read it. Peace, you poor ignorant soul.

[wcbroccoli]

@LocusIoannis By stating that you did not call it a "mood piece", you are being slavishly literal. I never accused you of calling it a mood piece. I said you're treating it as though it were a mood piece about joy simply because of the words in the title. Apparently you have nothing of substance to contribute to the discussion and choose to remain clueless and in denial.