Why would someone put an iPod in the offering?

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[LISTONNNNN]

@berean1129 Alright man. I read the Bible everyday, I dont know what group of mine your speaking of. I dont know why you insist on hating on this church. They dont claim to have this world over God... Perry states so much that God should be first, that God is first. but its fine your opinion is yours and mine is mine, newspring is bringing people who dont know Christ to know him no matter what you or I say. no one will be reached through your youtube fight ministry.

[LtRogers705]

I'm trying to figure out the "worldly" methods you are referring to, is it the drums, guitar, lights, the bible...? Help me out with a verse reference on that one

[Judelia77]

Tremendous! May God Bless you as you continue to reach others for Him.

[friendz4evertogether]

I saw this videeo and it touched my heartt ! God bless

[berean1129]

@LISTONNNNN I don't know what a youtube fight ministry is.I do know that noble has spoken many things contradictory of God's Word so he really shouldn't even be pastoring a church. This church growth movement is no different than what Paul spoke of as being a 'different' Gospel which is opposed to the true Gospel so newspring, using their worldly methods, could easily be included in preaching this different Gospel.

[berean1129]

@LISTONNNNN Is it all Newspringers that have created their own god in the image of Santa Claus giving them all the world has to offer with a little bit of watered down preaching.The Bible states that you can't have the world and God too. If you think a holy God can be in worldly secular music then you and your group need to actually read the Bible and learn about the true God.Please compare nospring to true Biblical teaching. They are robbing you.

[LISTONNNNN]

@berean1129 unholy secular music?.... If you think God's message is so small that it cant be portrayed in every style of music, your idea of God is too small. I promise you God is with newspring. Wether you like it or not they are doing good and spreading Gods word to many many many more people that your negative self sitting on youtube hating on men who are out there doing their best, being God's hands and feet, while you try and bring them down... good luck dude.

[berean1129]

@LISTONNNN Their carnal methods draw crowds, keep people entertained, create false fire, and it’s not for me to say but they can create false conversions. How can I say that?If a pastor is to be guided by the Holy Spirit and his teachings reflective of the Holy Word of God, is it not absurd to believe that in a sermon the Holy Spirit would guide a church to use unholy secular music for worship.These‘pastors’ rely on man-made methodologies and gimmicks, it is safe to say God may not be in it.

[berean1129]

@LISTONNNNN Liston to his 'teaching', family vacation. Nobody twists scripture like perry noble. Genesis is much deeper than being about ‘jacked up’ families. The story of Cain and Abel has nothing to do with our ‘jacked up’ kids and more with murder and the first victim due to sin. Acts 10:44 has nothing to do with a dad being a good example to his kids. It was a crisis in the early church due to conflict between Jews and gentiles and did one have to become a Jew to become a Christian.

[LISTONNNNN]

@berean1129 I have compared them. He even says the verses word for word before he starts to "distort" them. Im not trying to argue I am just interested in your opinion as I am studying religion and may become a Pastor. Do you think he distorts them by interpreting them in a way people can understand? because the main point of the verse always stays the same through perrys preaching. at which point are they being distorted?