Sam Harris répond au porte-parole d'Al-muhajiroun, Richard The Dick Coughlan666

"Il me semble que de tels rapports sur les communautés musulmanes d'occident devraient être notre 1er sujet d'inquiétude en matière de religions."

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[atomicKeeyu]

@Kurtlane good point, Kurtlane

the main problem, and many people are actively working so it remains intact, is that any kind of rational discussion about the nature of the problems and their reasonable solutions is just made impossible

no problem, of any kind, can be addressed without the ability to discuss it in a reasonable way...

[Kurtlane]

One doesn’t need to be a Christian to be offended and angry about this. One just needs to be a human being.

[Kurtlane]

But let anyone try to discuss Islamic bombers, Islamic terrorists, human rights record in Islamic countries, Islamic slave trade, Islamic colonialism, Islamic Jihad, or anything else negative that is Islamic, and all this other stuff just barges in.

Thus we lose focus. We cannot name the problem properly; so we cannot addresses it; so we cannot handle it. We are left speechless and actionless. Which is just what the enemy wants.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

When we discuss Western slave trade, we don't bring in Islamic slave trade (although sometimes we should).

When we discuss Western colonialism, we don't bring in Islamic colonialism (although sometimes we should).

Even when we talk about Crusades, we don't bring in Islamic Jihad that preceded and followed Crusades. Although in this case we definitely should.

(cont.)

[Kurtlane]

It's not just Christians who are offended by this endless reference to others whenever anything negative Islamic is discussed.

When we talk about bombers of abortion clinics, we don't bring in Islamic bombers.

When we discuss Timothy McVeigh, we don't bring in Islamic terrorists.

When we discuss North Korea's human rights record, we don't bring in human rights record in Islamic countries.

(cont.)

[Acrimonator]

Sam Harris avait prévenu que de parler ouvertement des problemes liés aux fondamentalistes musulmans pourrait faire le fruit d'une récupération par des groupuscules racistes ou xenophobes... Donc prudence.

Incroyable, il me surprend toujours par sa clairvoyance...

[Truculus000]

@14GengisKhan : Bon allez, d'accord : 1% et 99% :p

[14GengisKhan]

@Truculus000 Dsl, tu te trompes sur les chiffres, je suis 100% d'accord avec toi,lol

[Truculus000]

@14GengisKhan : "Ca fait réflechir" : Uniquement les moins paresseux, c'est-à-dire 2% des gens à tout casser. Et quand les 98% autres se réveilleront, ils seront en plein dans la mouise et ça va leur faire tout drôle.

[14GengisKhan]

1/3 des musulmans en Angleterre veulent vivrent sous la charria et 68% pensent que ceux qui insultent l'islam devraient etre comdamnée...Ca fait réflechir......