This is very interesting.Jesus is the name given to Gods son at his birth Matthew 1:25.How can Isaiah see Jesus before B.C.E.(Before christ era)Why didnt bible say Isaiah saw Jesus?You said Abraham ate with the lord,Genesis 18:1 Yahweh appeared to him among the big trees of mamre Gen.18:2 He ate with three men not the Lord.The trinity is a teaching of the Church.The bible does not teach the trinity.Thats the reason for our disagreement.Question.Can you find a scripture that mentions Trinty?
@313kaiser85 You said, "Why didnt bible say Isaiah saw Jesus?" It does in John 12:41. Some versions say Jesus (such as NIV) some use a pronoun, but it is clear who the pronoun is referring to.
It is clear that Yahweh is one of the three men talking and walking with Abraham in Genesis 18. If you don't see that it is due only to your traditions. Read the whole chapter. Abraham and Yahweh are having a conversation as they walk.
Are you asking whether the word "Trinity" appears in the Bible?
Thanks for the reply.Im happy to discuss Gods word.Obviously you are seeking Gods will and truth.John 12:41says Isaiah saw his glory.Isaiah 6:1 he saw Yahweh lifted up on a throne and had angels around him.God used visions to talk to the prophets.You mention the bible doesnt contradict itself,I totally agree.Exodus31:20God says"You are not able to see my face,because no man may see me and yet live" Moses,Isaiah,John and others saw Gods glory not his face.
@313kaiser85 In John 12:41, "His glory" is referring to the glory of Jesus. The pronoun throughout that passage is referring to Jesus. Therefore, when Isaiah saw Yahweh, he was seeing Jesus. Also, it's clear that your whole explanation is false, especially when Abraham spoke with and ate with Yahweh. This was clearly not a vision. Abraham saw Yahweh, yet no one has seen the Father. Either the Father is not Yahweh, or God is 1 being in at least 2 persons.
The bible refers to the Son of God many times.If God has a son.What is the sons name?Matthew 3:16,17 answers that question clearly.Jesus prayed many times while on earth John17:3.Who was he praying to obviously a higher power Yahweh, Jehovah or many just call him God.More evidence is Jesus died as a man a human sacrifice for all.Almighty God is the source of all life.Can he die?The bible says no.Dont beleive me read for yourself.
@313kaiser85 Your entire comment only shows that you have no understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity. Furthermore, not a shred of it has anything to do with the video.
No one has seen the Father. People have seen Yahweh. What is your explanation of that? John's explanation of at least one instance is that Jesus is Yahweh (John 12:41).
This is very interesting.Jesus is the name given to Gods son at his birth Matthew 1:25.How can Isaiah see Jesus before B.C.E.(Before christ era)Why didnt bible say Isaiah saw Jesus?You said Abraham ate with the lord,Genesis 18:1 Yahweh appeared to him among the big trees of mamre Gen.18:2 He ate with three men not the Lord.The trinity is a teaching of the Church.The bible does not teach the trinity.Thats the reason for our disagreement.Question.Can you find a scripture that mentions Trinty?
313kaiser85 5 months ago
@313kaiser85 You said, "Why didnt bible say Isaiah saw Jesus?" It does in John 12:41. Some versions say Jesus (such as NIV) some use a pronoun, but it is clear who the pronoun is referring to.
It is clear that Yahweh is one of the three men talking and walking with Abraham in Genesis 18. If you don't see that it is due only to your traditions. Read the whole chapter. Abraham and Yahweh are having a conversation as they walk.
Are you asking whether the word "Trinity" appears in the Bible?
bsp256 5 months ago
Thanks for the reply.Im happy to discuss Gods word.Obviously you are seeking Gods will and truth.John 12:41says Isaiah saw his glory.Isaiah 6:1 he saw Yahweh lifted up on a throne and had angels around him.God used visions to talk to the prophets.You mention the bible doesnt contradict itself,I totally agree.Exodus31:20God says"You are not able to see my face,because no man may see me and yet live" Moses,Isaiah,John and others saw Gods glory not his face.
There is no mention of trinity in bible
313kaiser85 5 months ago
@313kaiser85 In John 12:41, "His glory" is referring to the glory of Jesus. The pronoun throughout that passage is referring to Jesus. Therefore, when Isaiah saw Yahweh, he was seeing Jesus. Also, it's clear that your whole explanation is false, especially when Abraham spoke with and ate with Yahweh. This was clearly not a vision. Abraham saw Yahweh, yet no one has seen the Father. Either the Father is not Yahweh, or God is 1 being in at least 2 persons.
bsp256 5 months ago
The bible refers to the Son of God many times.If God has a son.What is the sons name?Matthew 3:16,17 answers that question clearly.Jesus prayed many times while on earth John17:3.Who was he praying to obviously a higher power Yahweh, Jehovah or many just call him God.More evidence is Jesus died as a man a human sacrifice for all.Almighty God is the source of all life.Can he die?The bible says no.Dont beleive me read for yourself.
313kaiser85 5 months ago
@313kaiser85 Your entire comment only shows that you have no understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity. Furthermore, not a shred of it has anything to do with the video.
No one has seen the Father. People have seen Yahweh. What is your explanation of that? John's explanation of at least one instance is that Jesus is Yahweh (John 12:41).
bsp256 5 months ago