Don Giovanni - Notte e giorno faticar

"Notte e giorno faticar" from Don Giovanni (Salzburg M22)

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Music

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• Mozart
• Don
• Giovanni
• Thomas
• Hampson
• Ildebrando
• D'Arcangelo
• Christine
• Schafer
• Robert
• Lloyd

[NoirOrchestre]

what the heck is that staging ? and this costumes ? and this set ?

[MaxwellsDemon9]

I think Ildebrando was late for his entrance, and that's why Hampson started the scene. Thoughts?

[lallanzinho]

What has just happen?!... there is so many things wrong here!

[fontinau]

@leotrdo (5) Some of your comments, unfortunately, suggest that this applies to you.

("I'm not among those who think that such a woman deserves to be raped,but I do think that women sending alternating messages can't be given full credit..")

("women despise shy trembling proposer...")

[fontinau]

@leotrdo (4) As for the subject of brutality, Giovanni IS brutal. He uses his rank to intimidate people of lower rank, and he tries to physically force two women to have sex.

Some people, unfortunately, identify with Giovanni because through him they vicariously

A. Get revenge on women, whom they resent

B. Flout the moral restrictions that society places on their behavior, which they also resent

and

C. Get to be masculine men, which they fear they aren't in real life.

[fontinau]

@leotrdo (3) My comments on music are still here. Search this comments section for "modulation".

[fontinau]

@leotrdo (2) What makes Giovanni special is his self-awareness.

As he watches the Commendatore die, he knows that one day that will be him. When he seduces Elvira for the second time, he admires his own powers, but without the slightest hint of bragging; it's as if he were admiring somebody else, and not himself. He knows that he can't take credit for his own talent; that he's a vessel. And when he accepts the statue's dinner invitation, he already knows he's doomed.

[fontinau]

@leotrdo (1) Giovanni certainly has a unique charm, but if it were for the reasons you're giving, he'd be as banal as the Duke from Rigoletto.

[leotrdo]

@fontinau (5) The charme of Don Giovanni (although not for you) is that he is on the edge between what a common man dares to do and actual brutality. Let us face it, nature is cruel.Women draw men mad and break their hearts (to use an euphemism), men abuse women in many ways,and neglect them most of the time.G. is fascinating because he can win the struggle,winning women to himself in the very moment by giving them exactly what they want in that moment.And women despise shy trembling proposer

[leotrdo]

@fontinau (4) I must say that Zerlina is among my favourite characters,for her high erotical power and because she sings something I understand.However,I am no priest or fond of paternal authority,but her morality is dubious.One minute before she had sung to Masetto "peace,my life,we will live cheerfully together".. I'm not among those who think that such a woman deserves to be raped,but I do think that women sending alternating messages can't be given full credit,because their wish is unclear

[leotrdo]

@fontinau (3) The comments of yours which were most interesting to me, being no music expert, were removed, I don't know why. Concerning the attempted assault on Zerlina, I agree that Giovanni behaves very poorly in this occasion, failing in his seductive art and refusing to accept that he has failed, and so turning physical suasion if not to brute force. However, I don't want to insult my rationality and your sense of morality, or vice versa, by judging Giovanni from Zerlina's behaviour.

[leotrdo]

@fontinau (2) So, the Commendtore's prior wish, to see who Giovanni is, is only in Anna's guess, as you said. Actually, he wanted to kill or at least to subdue him. By the way, this was exactly the right and the duty of a father finding a masked man with his daughter in Spain in the XVII century, to defend her honor and his. So, why guessing? This makes me find a part of bad faith in Anna, although of course it does not enable me to deduce that she wanted Giovanni