Milton Friedman - Illegal Immigration - PT 2

(2 of 2) Professor Friedman fields a question on the dynamics of illegal immigration. http://LibertyPen.com

Source: Milton Friedman Speaks
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News & Politics

Tags:

• border
• aliens
• Mexican
• economics
• liberty
• poverty
• freedom
• work
• libertarian
• conservative
• capitalism
• incentive
• immigrants
• ooo

[YRohanm]

Owning hippies and picking his nose. Just the way we like him! :D

[sniped101]

he looks like a nerdy matt damond

[Zoravar0v0]

He wasn't picking his nose???

[BroodjeEend]

@TheCynicalDude I think you're wrong. Nations have no responsibility in the sense that only the citizens óf that nation have responsibility. When it comes to borders; it's no matter of responsibility but rather of collective interest. The law of the land ought to ensure a system in which the citizens can thrive but this does not imply that the law itself carries any responsibility. The judicial branch has to make sure the law is obeyed or the system might collapse; which I'm sure is a bad thing.

[TheCynicalDude]

There's a principles flaw in Friedman's reasoning that disturbs me. All his points are valid one by one, but are not compatible. When talking inheritance and borders, he talks about families and nations, which is perfectly fine; but then you can't go like he goes to a "people have responsability, not nations" or an individualistic approach. You can't have it both ways.

[mriegger]

I wish all ideological exchanges were as polite as the one in this video.

[donteatthefishsticks]

AMERICAN FOOD SUBSIDIES are the gun held to the head of the Mexicans who are unable to earn a living growing food in Mexico!!!

[MrLecam21]

@stevemcgee99 depends for who and how it is done. 1) The point is that we have unemployed people here who could benefit it. 2) We do not produce in the us as in china. Our production would be more capital intensive (which by the way might stimulate progress). Look at what the japanese did. They have been trying to keep jobs at home and in order to do thus they improved their technology.

[MrLecam21]

@RealRacer69 nop you fail to understand that my utility function gives more value to made in usa. Being a patriot means that you value your country men well being, your utility function depends on their (to some extend of course). Thus yes if it is not to much more expensive I am ready to pay more because I know that I am giving an American a job and help him to raise his family.

[MrLecam21]

@RealRacer69 1) because if they are in and legal they become unemployed (they are protected).

2) if there are in and illegal that violates the law (you should still respect the law).

3) if they come in large number and you fail to integrate them then,in the long run, you might create internal tension (cf europe).

4) We should not have opened so quickly to international labor. It takes time to reorganize an industry and reform people. Beside there might be some strategic issues.

[RealRacer69]

@MrLecam21 The unfortunate truth is that American workers have to be able to compete (in terms of wages) in a world wide market. Now they can compete with slaves in Thailand that get $2 a day, or they can compete with people in the US who are protected by US law, meaning they will get a fair price for their labour.

There is no longer such thing as "American jobs" The jobs are global now and the immigrant will get the job whether here or in their home country. Why not bring them here?

[RealRacer69]

@MrLecam21 But in that instance you're paying for the product because it was made in America. The product is not identical (to you) as one made overseas. If you could buy a pencil made in America for $1 or one made in America for 50 cents, you would buy the cheaper one.