Jw's have some explaining to do... Jehovah's Witness Issue

The Watchtower Rendering of John 1:1 and 8:58

The original video can be found here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUakPaWKvV0&feature=channel_video_title Clips used with permission.

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[tonyp1945]

Thank god I'm an atheist, that bible should be in the fiction section.

[badwingduck1]

@jojoneli76 HIMSELF TO THE ONE WHO SUBJECTED ALL THINGS TO HIM, that God may be all things to everyone."

[badwingduck1]

@jojoneli76 totally confusing, non common sense garbage that you are trying to teach...THAT is brainwashing.

[badwingduck1]

@jojoneli76 Your right. God is a title as is Lord, judge, etc., and the Bible says that the name of the true God is Jehovah, not Jesus. It also says that Jesus is God's son, and as we read at 1st Thessalonians, Jesus is in subjection to God . God is not a mystery. Nor is he a confusing, mind bending fantasy. I'll tell you something else. Everybody likes to freely through the word brainwashing around in referrence to Jehovah's people, but when you persist in trying to teach the unreasonable, and

[badwingduck1]

@jojoneli76 Could you please show me that statement or term "God's humanity" or anything similar to it with the direct use of the word God or his Name Jehovah in the or any statement in the bible that directly states this teaching please, otherwise, you should stop teaching it as a scriptural truth.

[davidl7b]

Actually, if you read the book the Bible Knowledge Commentary by John F. Walvoord & Roy B. Zuck, it says that the modern Greek reader understands John 1:1 to read "the Word was a god". In fact, most Greeks do not use John 1:1 as a trinitarian proof text. Also, the Greek NT edition of the NWT is a modern translation in Greek, so that explains there rendition of the Greek "I have been" equivalent. Ego Emi is also found in Jn. 9:9 when the blind man said used the term EGO EMI. He was not God.

[badwingduck1]

@jojoneli76 If you truly wish to get technical on this, Jesus had 2 hands like everybody else. It doesn't say how broad the stake was or whether they nailed his hands one atop the other or beside one another. Besides, ask your doctor if it is possible to have yourself hung just by your hands with no other support with a nail without breaking bones or tearing completely through the tissue. He will tell you no. Had that happened, prophecy would not have been fullfilled.

[badwingduck1]

@jojoneli76 Jesus had no weakness because he was born a perfect man and was therefore without sin. He had to learn obedience to his father because he was in subjection to him. 1 Corinthians 15:27 & 28 verifies his subjection "For God subjected all things under his feet. But when he says that all things have been subjected, it is evident that it is WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE WHO SUBJECTED ALL THINGS TO HIM,But when all thingwill have been subjected to him,THEN THE SON HIMSELF WILL ALSO SUBJECT

[jojoneli76]

@badwingduck1 ....that you don't understand the trinity teaching. Jesus and Jehovah are NOT the same being so NO Jehovah did not give himself. They are separate beings but share the same divinity under ONE God. God is just a title.

[jojoneli76]

@badwingduck1 Yes because of his humanity again, he wasn't capable of knowing everything the Father did. "If you put Jesus on God's throne, you belittle the ransom sacrifice because the bible tells us that Jehovah gave up his only son for us, not himself."...I didn't put him in Jehovah's throne, the bible puts him in Jehovah's throne (Rev 22:1) No I don't belittle his ransom sacrifice, not at all. It seems from your comment....