Afghan Debate ( Marriage ) part 4

Afghan Discourse Session that took place at University of Toronto, Canada. Enjoy the lovely debate and please leave your comments on what you think is the right thing to do and feel free to make recommendation or offer your insight. Please avoid name calling, using vulgar language and/or swearing. Let us have a respectful debate about some of the issues we are facing. For more information, please visit www.afghandiscourse.com

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[scannerafg]

camera man i think ki cena baghal ast lol

[gurliegurl89]

@Tom101229

Kick the tajiks and 'iranians' out? no that would be wrong-they have lived in the land for just as long as pashtuns have lived in theirs. what you dont understand is that the wars in afghanistan are not a result of ethnic tension, the ethnic tension is a result of wars. also nations who had much to gain from instabiltiy in the area have always used propaganda to make people less united. ie dauood khan was supported by russia to overthrow zahir shah bc he wanted pashtunization

[mushyman99]

hey u guys should come to laurier

[royan66]

This guy need a clean shave!

[Tom101229]

You will end up having a larger Afghan influence over the region and the whole world than you would if otherwise, while possessing less land only tied to ethnic-lingual certainties.

But you have to understand this how it works with humans. We are like cats. We are lazy and don't like being bothers. But if you let us do our own thing and work on creating some form of partnership, then people will start living in harmony and work collectively together without discrimination or violence.

[Tom101229]

Instead we focus on insuring our collective prosperity by partitioning land up by language-ethnic divisions to insure a rightful since of unity amongst people within their own region. This will insure their own prosperity and it will end all ethnic tensions, for the most part. Work on making sound borders on these factors and then start using diplomacy to create a military and economic union which over time may lead towards some form of federalism like the European Union.

[Tom101229]

You should finish reading what I said, of course I said it would be wrong. Gosh, let me restate what has been said by me.

"moving people by force out of a country is considered a crime against humanity. "

"So the only other option is to divide the country up."

Why is this so problematic? Dividing up a country. Land has to be partitioned to insure prosperity. If you try to hold something together that is starting to fall apart, it will still fall apart. So there is no point. Instead... (cont.)

[Tom101229]

I won't argue that the British fucked up the whole world and still are.

But that is the whole point of correcting these errors.

Particularly as I see it, it doesn't matter how larger your borders are so long as you can encompass the majority of your population and can facilitate enough resources to achieve some sense of prosperity. The next you need to do is work with your neighbors to insure some form of collective prosperity, which in turn can increase your own influence in that region.

[gurliegurl89]

secondly the name and border lines of afghanistan were british imposed, knowing that it would lead to tension. prior all of central asia was much more united. russia and britian have been cutting and slicing the region up for ages leading to imposed borderlines and ethnic tensions, more division is not going to help. this has been happening in many parts of the world and as small as the nations are made it never solves anythin

[Tom101229]

Plus you also have the factor of stability that would rise due to the elimination of these ethnic tensions between Tajiks, Farsiwans, and Afghans, and with stability and peace comes prosperity and wealth.

Plus with an access the sea by trade union with Balochistan, Afghanistan will become vibrant like never before. And it will increasingly industrialized and then be able to compete again China and India on the global trade.

[Tom101229]

The result would be a smaller overall Afghan state, well somewhat smaller. If you add in Afghan portions of Pakistan, you aren't really losing that much. But... with Afghanistan acting as the regional power and forming a trade-military-cultural-commer­cial union with the others, Afghanistan's influence will overall become larger.

So it is an odd situation. Afghanistan becomes smaller upon it self, but globally and regionally, it becomes much bigger.