@jashta1 but aren't the most important factor in the creation of the current situation, certainly not just because their profession is really wrong...the two of us would not be able to discuss about this, without such a system of dealing with making transactions and effort,time and resources work together... the reason I cant stand 99% bullshit and quasi-intellectuals like Michael Moore is that you cant deal with such major changes that could influence so much by simplifying and being pissed off
@jashta1 we have had capitalism for about 200 years or so, paired with free thought and scientific inquire,it has given us so many good things (like the ones i mentioned above), mostly while in its purest form. You have to think of the living standards that were in the past, before judging todays living standards, in order to be realistic. Those people, who just move money around and do nothing, have made it possible to happen, in a very large extent. Those 1% may helped the crisis..
@khajj16 well for starters, i am not talking about the cold war or communism of the cold war... this is just populistic propaganda which adresses the wrong cause to the wrong issue...the problem is not the poor-rich gap and it is not caused just by "some people moving money around". There are many historic reasons for a poverty gap to occur (no leap was made without its problems, both caused by the change at the time being, and/or the influenced by the problems of the previous state of affairs..
@jashta1 Ok so you know a lot about many things. Then if you're so clever, what do you do about 60 or + million people in america who are below the poverty line? what do you do about people who can't get acces to college even if they are good? what do you do about people who are dying because they can't pay for medical attention? That's not about capitalism vs communism anymore (Cold war over man) or any shit propaganda you always repeat, it's about having a consciousness, and a moral.
@jashta1 on the other hand, people are poor and isn't to be celebrated...but what are we gonna do? The rich are equals to the poor, they have every right to do what they want with their money, if the poor are not pleased with that, I cant blame them but its as unjust to steal from the rich as it is from the poor...
well people who earned money by moving money around are the people who are a very crucial piece of the puzzle, and micheal moore like all the other 99% leftist condescending,useless assholes have no concept of how things work... If there were no people who gathered capital and invested it in right businesses, the every industrial, scientific, art revolution that happened would not have existed. Think of the renaissance, steam age, computer age...behind each stand investors moving money...
To all you people who are hung up on dissing Moore i have this to say - Moore's PERSONALITY is utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand, ... WHAT he is saying is anything but irrelevant. First lesson in growing a brain - Listen to the message, ignore the messenger. Peaceout
@jashta1 but aren't the most important factor in the creation of the current situation, certainly not just because their profession is really wrong...the two of us would not be able to discuss about this, without such a system of dealing with making transactions and effort,time and resources work together... the reason I cant stand 99% bullshit and quasi-intellectuals like Michael Moore is that you cant deal with such major changes that could influence so much by simplifying and being pissed off
jashta1 2 months ago
@jashta1 we have had capitalism for about 200 years or so, paired with free thought and scientific inquire,it has given us so many good things (like the ones i mentioned above), mostly while in its purest form. You have to think of the living standards that were in the past, before judging todays living standards, in order to be realistic. Those people, who just move money around and do nothing, have made it possible to happen, in a very large extent. Those 1% may helped the crisis..
jashta1 2 months ago
@khajj16 well for starters, i am not talking about the cold war or communism of the cold war... this is just populistic propaganda which adresses the wrong cause to the wrong issue...the problem is not the poor-rich gap and it is not caused just by "some people moving money around". There are many historic reasons for a poverty gap to occur (no leap was made without its problems, both caused by the change at the time being, and/or the influenced by the problems of the previous state of affairs..
jashta1 2 months ago
@jashta1 Ok so you know a lot about many things. Then if you're so clever, what do you do about 60 or + million people in america who are below the poverty line? what do you do about people who can't get acces to college even if they are good? what do you do about people who are dying because they can't pay for medical attention? That's not about capitalism vs communism anymore (Cold war over man) or any shit propaganda you always repeat, it's about having a consciousness, and a moral.
khajj16 2 months ago
@jashta1 on the other hand, people are poor and isn't to be celebrated...but what are we gonna do? The rich are equals to the poor, they have every right to do what they want with their money, if the poor are not pleased with that, I cant blame them but its as unjust to steal from the rich as it is from the poor...
jashta1 3 months ago
well people who earned money by moving money around are the people who are a very crucial piece of the puzzle, and micheal moore like all the other 99% leftist condescending,useless assholes have no concept of how things work... If there were no people who gathered capital and invested it in right businesses, the every industrial, scientific, art revolution that happened would not have existed. Think of the renaissance, steam age, computer age...behind each stand investors moving money...
jashta1 3 months ago
hundreds of millions of dollars
99% my ass
menacinghat 4 months ago
Bravo, Michael!
SLAVEforLISA 4 months ago
To all you people who are hung up on dissing Moore i have this to say - Moore's PERSONALITY is utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand, ... WHAT he is saying is anything but irrelevant. First lesson in growing a brain - Listen to the message, ignore the messenger. Peaceout
pixelspring 4 months ago
REPUBLIC isnt that good actually
xiaoqijack 4 months ago