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[October31st1517]

SO John 14:28 shows that The Father is a superior form of life than Jesus.

"...for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues..."

1 Cor 14:5

By your Logic is he who prophesys a superior form of life than he who speaks in tongues?

[IvanDefendingTruth]

@October31st1517 Augustine says: "In things in which greatness goes not by bulk, being greater means being better" (De Trinitate Vi, 9).

[October31st1517]

@IvanDefendingTruth I appreciate your opinion, and augustine was one of the greatest teachers of the church, but he is not the final authority. Scripture is. You totally avoided my question.

"...for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues..."

1 Cor 14:5

By your Logic is he who prophesys a superior form of life than he who speaks in tongues?

[IvanDefendingTruth]

@October When people say 'Scripture is the final authority', that is hardly the case. What people really means is that their interpretation of Scripture is final authority, not scripture itself.

As regards to your question, no. For the congregation in the 1st century it is possible that those who prophecised were "greater" in a different sense, but not in terms of "life" or existence.

Augustine answers the typical Trinitarian argument regarding better/greater in John 14:28.

[October31st1517]

@IvanDefendingTruth I didn't interpret the verse. I just read it. So you cannot use that argument against me.So back to greater. In 1 Cor 14:5 is the Greek word for GREATER, is it the same Greek word in John 14:28?

[ETHANGELIST]

Actually it does mean a lot when Jesus is comparing His humanity to the Father's divinity. Why? Because Christ's point in John 14:28 is NOT about the Father being greater than Him, it is actually about Jesus comforting His disciples before His death, telling them to rejoice because He is RETURNING to the Father. Why should they rejoice? Because the Father is greater than Him. In what way? The Father is divine in heaven, and the Son is human on earth. That's why they should rejoice.

[SoJesusliberta]

IvanDefendingTruth esse cara agarrou o cd?só fica nisso? mas ele não se batizou em nome de jesus? e espirito santo? ou estou errado? vai bloquear covardão ou vai pelo menos pro segundo round? será que vai fazer ao menos pro café? porque u8ns duzentos tj já desistiram po falta de respostas

[SoJesusliberta]

@vnofilho não disse que Jesus era uma anjo ou Filho de anjo? vc não conhece sua propria seita que diz que jesus é o anjo miguel que encarnou? ou é um tj pentecostal?????? kkkkkkkkkk

[DarkShadowM99]

When Moses was called Elohim that didn't imply there were plural moseses. So how come this years ago debunked argument of elohim being plural is still used?

[barbsinclair]

@IvanDefendingTruth>"So the "being" is God and each individual person is "God" also? Is that right?

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The three persons in "the Godhead" kjv Ac17:29;Rm1:20, is called NWT "Jehovah". One true God in being and nature, declared to be three persons in OT law of Moses, the Prophets and Psalms, and by NT Apostles and disciples of the Lord

"Jehovah God" repetitively uses plural noun elohiym (literally translated gods) for Himself with His name Jehovah, not the singular noun "el" - "eloahh" (god)