Speaking for the Trees

A 7 minute video that is an excerpt from an hour long show on public access TV in Ithaca, N.Y, about citizens working to protect old growth white pine trees in Finger Lakes National Forest. The full show received the 2007 award for the best public access program on the station. For more information see
http://home.earthlink.net/~owlgorge/speakingforthetrees/

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Tags:

• Finger
• Lakes
• National
• Forest
• white
• pine
• old
• growth
• environmental
• activism
• citizen
• logging
• conservation
• ecology
• forestry

[hotFusionReaction]

If replanted, the trees will regrow and the animals won't know the difference.

This is just like the Spotted Owl crap. That bird has been found happily living in SECOND and THIRD growth forests. IT DOESN'T CARE.

This is a manufactured crisis meant to draw attention to a personal grievance. You don't like the trees being cut, FINE, but don't invent a reason to justify your ENVIRONMENTAL SUPERSTITION.

[YnotMahargni]

Actually, you are ecologically wrong about that. Tall eastern white pine trees are important nesting habitat for bald eagles and other birds of prey. It would take a century or more for them to re-appear. You're also simply wrong about "a personal greivance." Your "environmental superstition" seems to be a projection of something in your own mind rather than corresponding to what this actually was about. Your hostility and derisive tone do not speak well for you.

[oldmanfoote]

haha they are no where near old growth...and for all intensive purposes what the hell does "mike" know about forests. I have a BS in Forest Resource Management have been in the industry for ten years and I am a Certified Arborist. I studied at SUNY ESF which is in NY and and have personally measured and studied true old growth in which there are only two or three areas left, none of which are in Fingerlakes National Park.

[YnotMahargni]

Mike DeMunn is one of the most experienced and respected foresters in central NYS. He, too, got his BS at ESF. He has worked for USFS,NPS, and other agencies, and is a consultant for land preservation organizations throughout the region. He was an old growth expert for NPS in evaluating stands in Great Smoky Mts. NP. I'll stack him up against you any day.

[YnotMahargni]

Hmm. I checked your profile and it says you are 24 years old, yet you say you "have been in the industry for ten years." Who is lying?

[oldmanfoote]

Not ONE tree on that program was old growth. ALL of those trees are 2nd generation growth. Just goes to show you people will lie to accomplish anything. With that said I am glad those trees were not logged but there were better ways to do it instead of trying to fill "common" citizens heads with BS.

[YnotMahargni]

Well, if you had seen the entire one hour show this was based on, old growth expert Mike DeMunn debates that very point in great detail. Your summary dismissal is unfair and to call it a "lie" is itself a distortion and a loaded term, which some "people will use to accomplish anything," in this case to dismiss a legitimate debate. If those trees are not technically old growth, they are "darn close" as Mike says.

[fingerlakeshiker]

leave the trees alone

[oldmanfoote]

I just really wish people would do their homework before they go blabbing about things they truely know little to nothing about.