20.5.1960 Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) vs Alan Hudson

This is a rarely seen fight between young Cassius Clay (changed his name to Muhammad Ali in 1964, although not officially) and Alan Hudson for the United States Golden Gloves light heavyweight championship in 1960.

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[HSJ90]

Fania54 He changed his name to Muhammad Ali (although not officially) after he beat Sonny Liston in 1964, so in this video he's Cassius Clay. So is it disrespectful to call him with his birth name?

[Fania54]

I really don't want to split hairs here, but since you know a bit about Ali, you also know he he was particularly cruel in the ring to any fighter who refused to call him by his chosen name. You can play with the time frame any way you want. Referring to Ali as Cassius Clay today, is just clueless in my opinion.

[HSJ90]

But that cruelness (or whatever the correct word is) came along only after he "changed" his name.

Ali taunted Ernie Terrell in 1967 saying "What's my name?" and beat him to the punch all night long.

And as you know he WAS known as Cassius Clay even during the first Liston fight in 1964 and after that fight he announced that he shall be called Muhammad X, and later he changed it to Muhammad Ali.

So during this video he is Cassius Clay.

[HSJ90]

But I know what you mean. If a man wants to be recognized by other than his birth name, so be it. But he should've changed his name legally so that today there wouldn't be any wiseasses (like myself) referring to him as Cassius Clay.

[HSJ90]

And svenson03 Ali's first professional fight (according to BoxRec) is recorded in October the 29th 1960 against some journeyman Tunney Hunsaker and this video is dated May 1960.

By the way does anybody know which year the amateurs started to wear wests? Or have they wore them from the beginning of the amateur league?

[HSJ90]

"failed to serve his country"? I don't think killing innocent Vietnamise people would be serving your country either.

[Sp0rtsFan2008]

you're a moron. that is all

[NDoraku]

when took this fight place? early 1960?

[copperpotbaby]

@Fania54 It's plain obvious that haven't even heard of the nation of islam because their views had nothing to do with other muslims! They were black muslims, so before u criticise my knowledge I suggest u had better look up these differences yourself!

[copperpotbaby]

@Fania54 Referring to Ali as being cruel is completely the wrong way to describe such a genius, one who brought both races together at a time of intolerant racial issues! All those who incite racial hatred and encourage others to plant bombs, on trains in the U.K., are both cruel murderers who have no courage! All those who abuse our laws to scream abuse at dead soldiers, all while using our benefit system, r pathetic and WORTHLESS! Our laws r changing here for the better! Ali is an icon!

[copperpotbaby]

@copperpotbaby If u have such an interest in the Nation of Islam and its association with Ali, then I suggest that u look all that I have written up on the internet! You've also claimed that Ali was "Cruel" in the ring, but boxing is a violent sport and do u think that Henry Cooper was any less crueller when he hit him with his "Hammer?" In fact, Ali and both Frazier were the greatest and bravest fighters of modern times; Adored by crowds, but sadly suffer from the effects today!

[copperpotbaby]

@Fania54 I must apologise if u have such a high I.Q. , that u never forget facts so think that just because I used the word, "Think", that I'm unsure of everything else that I wrote! I never once claimed that I knew anything about Muslims and I don't want to either; I'd prefer to have my eyes taken out than to learn about such a faith! This page is for boxing fans to discuss and my comment was made because it refers to Ali's life, but it has nothing to do with any interest in Muslims!

[Fania54]

@copperpotbaby I'm not trying to piss you off, but you have some pretty strong views, and speak early in your post as if you know quite a bit about the Muslims. Then you sau you "think" Elijah's son took over. If you don't know a key point like that, for sure, your credibility on everything else is shaky at best.

[Fania54]

@HSJ90 Can't argue with that.

[Fania54]

@suffern63 I agree with you.Hey I never said Ali was a saint,and I disliked the way he treated a nice guy like Joe Frazier.I think the way he treated his opponents,was Ali feeding the media what they expected from him,a unique and funny personality,not to mention,no one could hype a fight and sell tickets like Ali. Ali's skill as a boxer would have made him a legend,but his amazing persona elevated him even more to the status of unbelievable fame and glory he has enjoyed for most of his life.

[suffern63]

@Fania54 Perhaps,but it it any more "clueless" than Ali referring to a fellow black man as a gorilla?Ali was merciless with his opponents out of the ring and frankly many of his views when seen today are embarrassing. I wonder what weight he was in this fight.